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    I had a different issue with flash...
    When I expanded to full screen it collapsed

    long story short

    When enlarged (full screen), flash uses accelerated graphics and my open source ATI driver had a little trouble with that. My R300 series required Catalyst the "old" proprietary ATI driver which wouldn't work beyond xorg 7.3 and my xorg version is 7.5.3, so I installed swfdec (open source flash alternative) for SWF videos and I use vlc plugin for FLV files and most everything else. (I'm flash free)

    NOTE:
    When I went fullscreen w/ swfdec it worked but was slowww

    AMD/ATI should support their older hardware better.
    There is a new proprietarty driver for R600 series or later.... thanks

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    Actually, it's a shame that AMD gets so much grief.

    Unlike Nvidia, since 2007 AMD has worked actively with the open source community in developing drivers for their cards. Which probably explains why hardware acceleration works with many ATI cards and open source drivers. The reverse engineered nouveau driver for Nvidia is far behind.

    Part of the reason they dropped support for older cards is because many of them are so well supported by the open drivers.

    [Phoronix] ATI/AMD's New Open-Source Strategy Explained

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    They may be well supported by the open source driver,
    but my issue is well documented without a fix.

    You mentioned Nvidia...
    I have a great link about an upcoming Kernel release, but I can't post links yet.
    New reverse engineered Nvidia driver

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    I believe posts in the Coffee Lounge don't count towards your total.

    I'm not saying the open source ATI drivers are without problems, although they have improved rapidly over the past 2 years. Just that AMD gets a bad rap, and they are much more open and friendly towards open source than nvidia.

    You mentioned Nvidia...
    I have a great link about an upcoming Kernel release
    The nouveau driver will be included in kernel 2.6.33. Fedora has included it for a couple releases already, and I've been using it with Arch on my desktop for a couple months. No hardware acceleration yet, but otherwise seems solid. I don't care for desktop effects anyway, and I don't game, so I don't miss it.

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    You make a good point reed9, so I'll cut ATI a break.
    The "Fullscreen" Flash problem is the only issue I've ever had,
    (actually I have lots of issues, mostly personal , but my video in Arch is OK)

    Let me ask you this...
    If you were to purchase a new video card, would you buy an ATI or Nvidia
    (equivalent models, not the latest, but fairly new)

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    "Fairly new" might be an issue, since I believe it's mostly older cards that have good support with the open drivers.

    If I were shopping for a card, assuming my needs, I would probably get an ATI card from the r200 or rv280 series. Probably a Radeon 9250. Plenty good enough for what I need and supported hardware acceleration. Also quite inexpensive, about $60 on newegg.

    DRI Wiki - ATIRadeon

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    Thumbs up

    Thanks for the info!!

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