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    Post Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu - A Personal Perspective


    Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu ?

    (Ubuntu feisty vs PCLinuxOS 2007)

    Hello guys...

    I am one of Linux enthusiast like you people, and have used almost all major Linux distros in past.

    Currently I triple boot Windows XP/ Ubuntu Feisty /PCLinuxOS 2007.

    I am very impressed with PCLOS 2k7, even more than i was with Ubuntu. So i though why not write something which may help other people....

    So here it goes as if why PCLOS 2k7 is better than Ubuntu :

    {All things written below are completely my own views, based on my experiences with Linux and Windows, during past years and are no way related to PCLinuxOS OS or Ubuntu developers, or any other person or company mentioned below.}

    1. First reason, PCLOS is based on KDE, while Ubuntu is based on GNOME.

    And the hard truth is that KDE is definitely better than GNOME. ( I know die hard GNOME users must be frowning). Well, I have points to prove :

    (i). KDE gives so much power and options to user to configure their system and desktop, while GNOME in their goal of striving hard for simplicity (unnecessarily and sometimes more than required) cripples normal user (sometime even Linux geeks) in terms of above said parameters. KDE Control center gives far more options than GNOME.

    Even Mr. Linus Trovald supports this fact in public and encourages users to use KDE( google it to read Linus's comments.)

    (ii). KDE developers are far more active than GNOME people.

    This is evident by the fact that KDE is going to release its 4th version (which is a major release, a complete overhaul,i mean everything has been reviewed), while GNOME has no plans of releasing even 3rd version.

    (iii). Lots of day to day used apps, like media player, torrent client, file manager, are far superior in KDE. To name a few, Amarok vs. Rhythymbox, Ktorrent vs (hey GNOME doesn't even has a torrent client), Konqueror vs Nautilus, Gaim/Pidgin vs Kopete.... Almost everywhere KDE apps surpass over GNOME apps.

    (iv). Now explanations to some of facts for which KD is criticized by GNOME users mostly :

    a. KDE is more like Windows.

    Well first of all its not true. Because Windows itself copies all things from Mac, but you can't do anything about that, because Mac people are almost always first to bring innovation in GUI. And if Mac people were first to develop the GUI [Graphic User Interface] (rather they also bought it from Xerox company in 80's). So everything traces back to roots and looks similar. And GNOME doesn't look like Windows because GNOME in first place doesn't give many options in GUI. You know, GNOME's philosophy is simplicity.

    So better allegation would be that KDE is more like Mac. But believe me fellas, KDE people bring the best of all, along with their own innovations.

    b. KDE is slower than GNOME.

    Again same explanation, if you need power to configure, you need to have tools to do that. And it needs, both memory and processing. And i use both GNOME and KDE, i don't see or feel much difference.

    2. PCLOS has far more stability than Ubuntu. Reasons for that :

    (i). PCLOS repository has softwares which have been tested by PCLOS developers completely, while Ubuntu has so many repositories available today, (though it is good in a sense that Ubuntu has max. no of softwares available), that there are very high chances that some program or library dependency from unofficial repository may cause trouble to your system. (OK, this is not for geeks..... BUT this is hell lot of problem for newbies, and mid-experienced users....)

    (ii). PCLOS is .rpm based which is better and more efficient packaging model for Linux binaries, than .deb, used by Ubuntu.

    [Lot of people may not agree with this. So i want to clear that this is what i have learned from my personal experience, and research on Internet. So your thoughts are equally respected on this.]

    3. PCLOS comes pre-installed with most of commonly used multimedia formats(except real player, quick time, and mpg), while Ubuntu doesn't.

    This point gives PCLOS a great push ahead of Ubuntu. Its too convenient in conditions like:

    (i). Newbies who when using Linux for first time, just get shot when they see that their brand new Linux OS is not playing their favorite songs(mp3).

    (ii). Now you will say, person above may simply double click the song, and Ubuntu will automatically install required binaries. True. But, just Imagine someone in developing nation, where Internet penetration is not good or not even available. How do you provide required binaries, as there are always dependencies involved in any Linux binary installation ? Will those people ever replace their perfectly running PIRATED Windows XP in such scenario ? Well, the answer is, NEVER.....

    [I could never understand why doesn't Ubuntu pre-installs required multimedia formats. Legal Issues ? Well, i think , they are already getting into legal issues by providing it in repositories. so why not on CD ? May be some complex legal stuff..... if anyone kind enough to explain to me...]

    5. PCLOS control center is a big and easy tool to configure system with just few clicks, while

    there is not anything analogous in Ubuntu.

    6. Some things which i personally experienced with my own system:

    (i). PCLOS automatically detected that i needed a software to correct my screen resolution, while Ubuntu didn't.

    (ii). PCLOS automatically configured my laptop touchpad correcly, while in Ubuntu, i had to edit x org file to get it working good. For newbies out there, its a nightmare to even find that file without any help from forums or people.

    (iii). PCLOS detected my wireless card while Ubuntu didn't.

    (iv). On PCLOS, i could run 3d desktops (beryl and compiz) right after install while in Ubuntu i had to install these things from repositories.

    (v). On PCLOS i can run even 2 or 3 videos with 3d desktop enabled, while in Ubuntu, whenever i even clicked a video file to play, it would simply exit without anything playing. ( I have a little old laptop with no separate graphic card)

    This thing made me a fan of PCLOS. I thought while using Ubuntu that i will never be able to use 3d desktop on permanent basis but with PCLOS i am a complete 3d convert.

    [For newbies : 3d desktop on Linux are freaking awesome. Windows vista with its too much hyped "Live Thumbnails in Taskbar" and "Aero Flip Through Windows" should be ashamed. I mean guys, it nothing in front of Linux 3d desktops. And Microsoft spends 5 BILLION DOLLARS on research (did u read that !).

    Do check out some videos on you tube. Vista users will feet like scratching their brand new Vista DVD by their own hand after seeing these videos..... So be cautious, Vista victims.......]

    (v). I couldn't get flash videos playback with sound on Ubuntu, even after installing same codecs as on PCLOS, and doing all possible tweaks. PCLOS played it like a charm right after install......

    (vi). With PCLOS i could select what things not to install (like i kinda don't like open office) during installation by simply uninstalling that software from synaptic, while i couldn't achieve same thing in Ubuntu.

    7. What Surprises Me Really As if why Ubuntu hasn't been able to do same things despite the facts that ;

    (i). Ubuntu is supported and developed by multimillionaire Mark Shuttleworth and his company Canonical, while PCLOS is developed by some great Linux geek fellas(Texter and ripper gang as they call themselves). I mean where is all that money being spent.

    I respect Mark Shuttleworth a lot and am a regular reader of his blog. It seems he needs to audit his company great time.

    (ii). Some big computer manufacturer like Dell (and recently Lenovo) and are supporting Ubuntu.

    8. Why Has Then Ubuntu Become So Much Popular than Other Linux Distros like OpenSUSE, Mandriva. Well i see few reasons which led to that ;

    (i). Mark Shuttleworth decision of sending out free Ubuntu Cd's without any cost in any part of World. This had a huge impact, because it led to wide adoption of Ubuntu in developing nations where people have Internet access but not of broadband like people in developed nations. People out there on their dial up connections could simply request Ubuntu installation Cd's on Ubuntu websites, and get them at their home for free.

    (ii). Even today, Ubuntu is definitely second best to PCLOS as:

    (a). single CD operating system unlike OpenSUSE or Red hat.

    (b). Big community support which has developed over time due to Ubuntu's wide reach attributed to point 8(ii). And MIND YOU....... there is no doubt that Ubuntu's community support is definitely largest and best......you post a query at ubuntuforums.org, and you get the response within minutes......

    (iii). And above all, PCLOS hadn't arrived before 2003.................

    Hope this article will help newbies to make a right decisions by choosing PCLinuxOS 2007 as their first distro, and already Linux convert to switch or at least give a try to PCLOS 2k7 ( did someone said "distro hoping")......

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    hmmmmmmmmm........................

    kde vs Gnome came in middle of ubuntu vs pcoslinux fight
    life is the greatest opportunity that the nature had given you

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    Quote Originally Posted by abhishek456 View Post
    hmmmmmmmmm........................

    kde vs Gnome came in middle of ubuntu vs pcoslinux fight
    buddy its not fight or anyhting, just a comarison, rather my views which i think may help people.....

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    Does pclos have a user-friendly option to reinstall grub if for any reason we need to install windows after linux? I want to suggest a distro to my sister's daughter (15 yrs old) ...
    I found something like this in Mepis liveCD.

    thanks in advance

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    buddy its not fight or anyhting, just a comarison, rather my views which i think may help people.....
    yes i knew that

    i should have used the word comparision instead of fight

    any how a good one from you cyneuron
    life is the greatest opportunity that the nature had given you

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    I tried unbuntu, couldn't see what all the fuss is about. Not a bad distro just didn't do anything for me. I'm playing around with PClinux on a live CD. I like it ready to go out the box, straight forward. Gonna install it later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g.ivannov
    Does pclos have a user-friendly option to reinstall grub if for any reason we need to install windows after linux? I want to suggest a distro to my sister's daughter (15 yrs old) ...
    I found something like this in Mepis liveCD.
    First of all, Windows should be installed before Linux. GRUB doesn't boot Windows OSes in most machines if you install Windows after Linux.

    Windows repair removes GRUB and You can use SuperGRUB CD ( Screenshot of its Menu ) to re-install GRUB in any Linux Distro. Its very easy to use.
    It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g.ivannov View Post
    Does pclos have a user-friendly option to reinstall grub if for any reason we need to install windows after linux? I want to suggest a distro to my sister's daughter (15 yrs old) ...
    I found something like this in Mepis liveCD.

    thanks in advance
    yup you can install grub in a few clicks from pclos control centre any no. of time u wish.......

    for booting Linux from windows boot loader, use software Bootpart (google it, its free).

    for this you install grub during your Linux installation to its own root partition, instead of Master Boot Record, and then add entry of grub to windows boot loader via boot part from windows.

    will write a post on this also....

    seems like installing Linux along with Windows without causing hassles to Windows boot loader may be of great help to newbies, as it won't trouble with their existing windows OS, and they may try Linux without any fear of messing up with their system......

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    Quote Originally Posted by devils_casper View Post
    First of all, Windows should be installed before Linux.
    Windows repair removes GRUB and You can use SuperGRUB CD
    I know it but installing Windows after Linux may happen and it is not rare. Thanks for the link.

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    I know it but installing Windows after Linux may happen and it is not rare. Thanks for the link.
    In that case, if GRUB doesn't work ( it doesn't work in most of machines ), Use Windows Boot Loader to setup dual boot. check this post.
    It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.
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