How to Win-Win at Work!

[cousinlucky]

I emailed Mike Rogers this morning and informed him that after reading his article I wanted to call it How to Win-Win at Life.

Leaders lead without needing any followers!!

There are so many rational free thinking young members of LinuxForums that I expect to exert a positive influence on the future existence of all of humankind who will be telling stories someday just like this one.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rogers/rogers214.html

[fingal]

From my own perspective I don't agree with most of what he says in that article. My view of work is quite complex, and I suppose the British are not a naturally corporate people. If I had to work in a culture where 'winning' was the centre of everything I would have to leave ...

[cousinlucky]

Fingal,

What I got from the article is that believing in yourself, your abilities, and always adhering to the high ethical standards within yourself ( that any real true leader must have ) enables a leader to overcome the myraid of obstacles to reach a desired goal without violence, coersion, or deviousness.

What I got from the article is a leader aware of the human weaknesses and biases in others that he chose to ignore personally and professionally as he went about doing what he set out to do.

I consider it rare for people to be able to withstand constant negative social pressures without those same pressures producing corresponding negative reactions within themselves.

Relegating those negative social pressures as things out of your control and therefor unnecessary to be bothered with; as you maintain your own self-worth and ethics, as you strive to accomplish something, is truly something that I admire and respect.

[fingal]

Cousinlucky: yes rare qualities indeed! I don't think I've ever met anyone like that.

Where I part company with him is in treating the individual as a brand or a product. I simply find that viewpoint offensive: horses for courses I think. Also the slogan about 'joining the 80s' jarred a nerve. That was the worst decade of my entire life ... To that I would reply (to him): wake up!

It's true though, in most workplaces people end up defaulting to monkey behaviour and trying to undermine each other ... I've seen a lot of that in my life, and I simply feel disgust when it occurs.

Fortunately I now work with mature adults who are intelligent enough to stand back and take a good luck at themselves. They can be critical sometimes, but it's the kind of feedback you welcome.

[ryokimball]

Kudos to those without knives and backs. The optimist (or lucky people) live and work with mature people who don't undermine everyone and everything. The majority of Americans and Americanized people (which is, sad to say, apparently most of the coperate world) are not such people. Heck, the ever-powerful Hollywood (I know it's false power, but it's still more power than most others will ever encounter) is completely controlled by media and their sick puppets (exempli gratia, Brittney Spears).
The truly powerful people are those who can live in a corrupt society, not be corrupt themselves, and maintain... anything to call themselves human. Most people can't. I won't start pointing fingers; I just will say that it's very rare for a person, especially one "big" in the "real world," to go through their life with a good moral standing.

Blah, blah, blah --gotta go.

[techieMoe]

I stopped reading at this sentence:

There are no jobs with "job security" anymore.

I work for local government. Specifically, I write criminal and civil justice software. As long as there are bad people doing bad things, I will have "job security." I am apparently not this article's target audience.

[fingal]

/usr/bin/./BadPeopleDoingBadThings

**********************************************
Welcome to PerpBuster Ver. 1.2.5.3.4.0.2b
Keeping Moe in Lunch since the year dot ...
This is Open Sauce Software: share and enjoy!
**********************************************

Menu
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1. Punish lots of Bad People
2. Credit Moe's bank account 
3. Webcam Surveillance Mode
3. Rebuild Database
4. Purge files
5. Kick some Perp Ass!
6. Quit

Enter your choice:

[techieMoe]

Haha. Good one.

[cousinlucky]

The articles author lives and works in Japan. Mike Rogers was born and raised in the U.S.A. He is not an Oriental. That kind of constant everyday pressure in a business and living environment would be too much for me to bear no matter how much I loved my wife. That is why I admire him and his accomplishments.

TechieMoe, one thing for sure about the U.S.A. ( which has a higher proportion of criminals in its population than any other country ) you do indeed have permanent job security.

The music business, however, and the arts in general have just two levels - struggling or successful.

[fingal]

The Japanese angle is interesting. A week or two ago I did some reading about a phenomenon called karoshi (death from overwork). I was doing some research for a small creative writing project.

It was disturbing to realise how many Japanese people die from this ... There doesn't seem to be an explanation for it, so I'm intrigued.