[paprika27]

thanks ^^
I believe that the biggest problem always lies between the headphones... I don't remember who had that in his signature...
It may also be Suse.
It is not the hardware though... my first system was an old 1.5 GHz that I ran 10.3 on. It had cable-connection to the router so I didn't have trouble at all.
My system now, back home and just freshly bough is an e8400, x1950 pro, gigabyte ep35-ds3r, 2 gb corsair, linksys wlan adaptor... nothing exotic and nothing new.
But I've spend 4 days now trying to work things out and it is still not usable. Partly because KDE 4 which I awaited as part of Suse 11 for months (i put the counter on all my websites) is definitively disappointing.
Maybe I'll try Ubuntu with KDE 3.5 later. The only thing holding me back is having read that Ubuntu is supposedly made to be easy for users coming from windows, having some familiar parts in it whereby i actually want to get away from windows and try different stuff that may be greater. In a system that leans on the old there is less space for the new, you know.
Suse seemed to be completely different from XP.

hf, gl
:P

[Manchunian]

Yeah, I don't like Ubuntu very much - but it's a great beginner's distro. Why not give Archlinux a try? It's definitely not like Windows, and its performance and speed are very impressive. Also, and this may appeal to you, it does present quite a few challenges, especially the install.

[paprika27]

thanks for the suggestion
I already can't handle Suse^^
Speed and performance vary unnoticable with dual core 3 GHz, 2Gb 1066 Mhz RAM, high-end gaming graphics card.
But I'll look at it and find out how big the community is...

hf, gl
:P

[Manchunian]

Ture - but you would be going from the very slowest Linux distro (Suse) to one of the very fastest, so you might notice a difference. As for the community, it's excellent - I think only Gentoo beats it on this front; also excellent is the documentation - and again, only Gentoo beats it there. Archlinux is quite a challenge to install, but if you print out the official install guide and follow it step by step it's easy enough. As for the usage, it's very pleasant. It bugs sometimes, well it is a bleeding-edge distro after all, but errors are usually resolved very quickly. For the record, I haven't been using it for long - I was a 100% loyal Debian fan before I tried ArchLinux.

[paprika27]

So, i looked a little bit at archlinux and it seems to be a distro made for them developers, using the command line more than the gui. Well, i unfortunately am not part in that group
No bad feelings but Arch linux seems to be something for the very advanced users.
i googled for some more opinions about suse or ubuntu and i found that I was actually terribly mistaken with what I thought I've read, that, actually, Suse is the Windows-like one, not Ubuntu. That made me start the download of the user-friendly, gui-loaded, kubuntu.

Why did you abandon Debian?
Though, I thought one'd use debian in server environments so it was surprising to hear that someone used it as a desktop system.

What are your arguments against Ubuntu?

[elija]

I suspect that he finds it bloated and slow as it loads loads of stuff by default. I also have
a suspicion that there is a lack of geek cred there for him.

Personally, I love Ubuntu - I can get stuff done. I do keep flirting with other distros but
always end up back using Ubuntu...

Strangely, my eeepc is running Debian

[paprika27]

a'right. All that doesn't keep me from using it. I would enjoy using my computer, not just trying to enable me to use it.

Suse 11 is ridiculous and kde 4 is a joke (at least it better should be... one word to describe it: pitiful)

I'll give Kubuntu a shot and maybe switch to arch if I miss anything.

hf, gl
:P

edit:
hmmm, that is an interesting question that you ask there in your signature.
I guess it wouldn't at all. Even though it could walk, it doesn't, even though it could jump, it doesn't, even though it could learn how to read, it doesn't...

[paprika27]

I am already working on installing Kubuntu (from DVD) for an hour or so and I must say, after I've tried it with the gui for the installation a couple of times, the gui for installation is ********. In 6 steps I have no other options than selecting my country, keyboardlayout and fooling a little with partitioning. I'm trying to install Kubuntu in the text based installation which gives me a little bit more info but just as many options.
There was no sign of that after the formatting I'll be able to select the packages I want.
This is not even enough info to satisfy me.

OK.. it just asked me for some network settings (which I skipped because of my wusb54gsc dongle not being supported natively), user's name and username plus password...

I liked the suse installation better, first one sets everything up, then it is being installed. That way I didn't have to sit infront of it all the time.

What can you tell me about the installation of Arch Linux?

sorry if i was offending, just a little pissed off right now.

hf, gl
:P

edit:
later in the installation process i was asked about whether to install grub in the mbr and whether all systems installed are listed correctly.
I was not able to set a root password and I could not influence which packages have been installed...

[elija]

The Ubuntu family install a default set of software - and don't use
root. They use sudo instead, you will either love or hate sudo.

Once it installed you can uninstall / install to your hearts content
using the package manager. I think that in KUbuntu that is adept.
Personally, I would install synaptic and use that instead.

[paprika27]

After quite a bit of testing i feel that the system is slimmer, less tools, less functions already integrated. I have to install everything manually because I don't have a chance during setup. Without working internet connection on that system I really don't have fun.
For some, slim may mean good but i personally did not encounter any disadvantages of having the fully loaded Suse (since I don't use the computer for gaming, I can use the power for desktop and background tools) but don't love (K)Ubuntu at all.
Sorry man, that's gonna be off my mashine as soon as I download Suse 11 x86 (I already have the x64 version but i believe 64-bit compared to 32-bit doesn't bring enough advantages to outweigh the more effort needed to get drivers and everything else into a 64-bit system).

thanks for your effort to get me as a Ubuntuer though
But it's not for me.

hf, gl
:P