Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex"

[techieMoe]

I installed Beta 1 of this release today on Rig 4, the laptop. Aside from a couple of annoying but not show-stopping bugs, things look good.

I like the dark "New Human" theme that's available as an option now. It's not the default (though IMO it should be). I've seen some pretty impressive alternative themes on the Ubuntu site too that might make it into the final release on October 31st.

Anyone else tried it? Thoughts?

[L4Linux]

Can you post a link to the alternative themes you liked?

[danbuter]

I've been running xubuntu since Alpha 2. It's really nice. The default wallpaper for Intrepid is utter crap, though. I liked the Hardy Heron wallpaper.

[eldipablo]

I've been running 8.10 since Alpha 6. So far so good. I didn't notice any dramatic improvements.

I love the new themes. The default Ubuntu crap brown really gets on my nerves.

[Tsarevich]

I wonder there are so patient people on the face of this Earth. Ubuntu declines release by release, what is good about it is just the support of a billionaire who can afford to send the disks all over the globe. I would like to know how much RAM is required this time? It increases like Fibonacci numbers!!

[techieMoe]

I wonder there are so patient people on the face of this Earth. Ubuntu declines release by release, what is good about it is just the support of a billionaire who can afford to send the disks all over the globe. I would like to know how much RAM is required this time? It increases like Fibonacci numbers!!

Did Mark Shuttleworth run over your puppy or something? Geez. First off, you can't throw out superlatives like how Ubuntu "declines with every release" or uses too much RAM without factual backup.

Ubuntu 8.10 (and 8.04, and 7.10) has always used the same amount of system resources on my machines, which is around 150MB of RAM when idle. I have 2048MB, so I don't see a reason to complain there.

How has Ubuntu "declined" with every release? Enlighten me, with details. If you simply don't like Ubuntu, fine, say that. I didn't like earlier releases of it, either. You're entitled to that opinion, but don't just throw out vitriol without a factual basis.

[daark.child]

I must have some sort of Ubuntu curse. I have just tried the 8.10 beta on my HP G7090 and it won't play ball with my Intel GM965 graphics card. During the boot process, the screen gets garbled and the boot process just hangs. I can boot into safe graphics mode, but Ubuntu doesn't play along nicely with the Atheros AR242x builtin wireless adapter.

I then tried it on my desktop and it boots fine, but there still doesn't seem to be a decent way to reconfigure X. I am using a GeForce MX400 and the resolution is 800x600 which is not good for me.

So far I am not impressed, because on the same systems Mandriva 2009 rc2, works fine. The Intel GM965 graphics card on the laptop works out of the box and so does compiz fusion and the Atheros 242x wireless card using the ath5k driver. I will report my problems as bugs and see if they can fix them before they release the next beta. Next on my list of distros to test is openSUSE 11.1 beta 2.

[Tsarevich]

Did Mark Shuttleworth run over your puppy or something? Geez. First off, you can't throw out superlatives like how Ubuntu "declines with every release" or uses too much RAM without factual backup.

Ubuntu 8.10 (and 8.04, and 7.10) has always used the same amount of system resources on my machines, which is around 150MB of RAM when idle. I have 2048MB, so I don't see a reason to complain there.

How has Ubuntu "declined" with every release? Enlighten me, with details. If you simply don't like Ubuntu, fine, say that. I didn't like earlier releases of it, either. You're entitled to that opinion, but don't just throw out vitriol without a factual basis.

Why would I blame something for nothing? I have many bad experiences with this distro. I just hate GNOME (and that makes me think Linus Torvalds being from within my brethren!). The layout is dull and depressing (themes included). I change the wall every hour. KDE is much more lively. I was deceived by people who in vain said "Ubuntu is faster than Windows" and I overrode my Windows installation. And that was the time when I was doing a website project (still got away with a Silver Medal). You must have experienced that Windows can be finicky on being installed over a Linux PC (when Linux is solely the king there). The installation process fails at the very boot. So I was limited to Ubuntu. Flash in Wine destroyed my work by frequent crashes. And literally, where I was supposed to type "beautiful", I wrote "beautful" and such mistakes I bet kept me from Gold Medal. Windows on the other hand is far better when it comes to Ubuntu.

[carlosponti]

it bugs me when people complain about performance and in the same breath complain about how boring gnome is. The discourse is a bit harse about ubuntu. for starters its not shuttleworth who uses his money to send out free cd's those are paid for by the commercial aspects of the distro. ie support etc. to me Ubuntu is good for what i use it for. Ubuntu has gotten successfully better through each release for me. in my opinion KDE is aweful cluttered and disorganized never have liked it.


ps they have a kde version for those who dont share my opinion ever try it.

[techieMoe]

Why would I blame something for nothing? I have many bad experiences with this distro. I just hate GNOME (and that makes me think Linus Torvalds being from within my brethren!). The layout is dull and depressing (themes included). I change the wall every hour. KDE is much more lively. I was deceived by people who in vain said "Ubuntu is faster than Windows"

That's your mistake, not Mark Shuttleworth's. It's impossible to cater to people's expectations when they're based on a lie.

You must have experienced that Windows can be finicky on being installed over a Linux PC (when Linux is solely the king there).

No, not at all. I've had several PCs that dual-booted and never noticed any issues with either OS due to that setup.

The installation process fails at the very boot. So I was limited to Ubuntu.

That sounds to me like a hardware problem. Start a thread. Perhaps we can track it down.

Flash in Wine destroyed my work by frequent crashes.

Again, this is Ubuntu's fault how? You're blaming Ubuntu for issues with WINE, which is a thrown together afterthought designed to run software that was never meant to run in Linux in the first place.

Windows on the other hand is far better when it comes to Ubuntu.

What on earth are you talking about?

Guys, I started this thread to talk positively about the upcoming release of a very popular Linux distribution and it's become a bashfest for Ubuntu. If this doesn't turn around immediately I'm going to lock my own thread. There's nothing wrong with pointing out valid bugs (Intrepid is in beta after all) but if you just don't like Ubuntu, express your opinion in another thread.