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Is anyone as disappointed with fedora 10 as I am? I've been using fedora since core 5, and while there have always been minor things with each release, this one ...
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    story from hell with Fedora 10

    Is anyone as disappointed with fedora 10 as I am? I've been using fedora since core 5, and while there have always been minor things with each release, this one is really bad IMO.

    I always install by exporting the disk iso over NFS, and booting to the installer off of a USB drive. No dvd's wasted, and it's really easy. This release, there was no diskboot.img to format my USB drive with. I had to look online for an hour for a solution (my dvdburner is incompatible with the only blanks I had laying around,) which was to manually format the thing.

    Then it crashes while partitioning my disks in anaconda the first time. I finaly get it installed, and it keeps spitting out a bunch of debugging code on whichever console I'm trying to work on.

    I decide to startx, just so I dont have to deal with it, and start doing the usual stuff I do to make fedora more for me (disable selinux, disable the firewall, remove yumupdatesd / packagekit, I dont need the annoying bubbles and yum locks, don't fix what isn't broken, and if I do, i'll say when I want to do it.)
    Then I run yum update, and my computer locks up. I reboot, try again, same thing. I can't run X for more than 10 minutes without it locking up.

    So I went back to runlevel 3, and just typed (blind, the debugging stuff was still going on, and I couldn't see what I was typing) yum -y update && init 6. After an hour, my computer rebooted.

    My console screens were still being flooded, so I started X, and it finally was stable ... well more so anyways. I download my kernel-devel and GCC packages, and try to install the nvidia drivers, and it can't find the kernel files .......... this was the point where I started downloading a different distro (which will not be named, this post is not meant to be flame bait, or a battleground for a holy war, I'm more or less just trying to find out if anyone else was plagued as bad as me.)

    so .... anyone else have a story from hell for the Fedora history books ??
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    Are you using the Gnome or KDE4 release? I tried both and had a disappointing experience as well. I had similar problem x.org that you were mentioning as well as with video drivers. I also had network problems and updates seemed to break the install almost every time. I feel your pain.
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    I had some serious problems with Fedora Core 2 or 3 (don't remember which) back when it was released and have never used it since. I'm sure that some of the later releases were fine, but I just never got around to trying it again, so have no idea what Fedora 10 might be like.

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    I have been using Fedora 9-KDE 4 for about one month and I can tell you, don't bother with it. I'm getting ready to fdisk Fedora and install anything else, I have a real itch to try Puppy and or Mint Linux.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTbob View Post
    I have been using Fedora 9-KDE 4 for about one month and I can tell you, don't bother with it. I'm getting ready to fdisk Fedora and install anything else, I have a real itch to try Puppy and or Mint Linux.
    I love Mint. I'm reading good things about Felicia on the Mint forums. Think I'll have a go at it in VB-ose right now.
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    My school's Computer Science department has a computer lab with about 28 computers all running Fedora 7 (or maybe . It seems to work alright, but after experimenting with Fedora 9 on my own, I'm concerned as to how long it took the poor soul to set up 28 working boxes with Fedora on them. Plus, for me at least, I'm more of a fan of debian-based distros, so it already started out on the wrong foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aluminumspleen View Post
    My school's Computer Science department has a computer lab with about 28 computers all running Fedora 7 (or maybe . It seems to work alright, but after experimenting with Fedora 9 on my own, I'm concerned as to how long it took the poor soul to set up 28 working boxes with Fedora on them. Plus, for me at least, I'm more of a fan of debian-based distros, so it already started out on the wrong foot.

    @MikeTbob
    Puppy! Puppy is wonderful and it works like a charm! I don't know if you really want it on a hard drive (mint is probably much more suited for that) but it's a perfect little pet for a 512+mb USB stick. I have a "puplet" (community created puppy) on my 2gb sandisk cruzer, and at the end of the day, when windows and ubuntu and whatever else i'm messing around with at the time is frustrating me, i just pop in puppy, reboot, and i'm at a fully-functional, lightning-fast desktop in ~26 seconds. And everything just works! I'm actually downloading puppy unleashed right now to customize one of these so it'll go even faster!

    Fedora 7 was great IMO. I didn't use it for very long on my main desktop, but it was probably the best of the fedoras IMO, with fedora 8 not far behind it. 9 is where it started downhill. I still used 9, but that is when fedora started trying to be another ubuntu windows replacement, instead of being a solid Linux distro. I'm starting to not like the publicity and popularity that linux has been getting since ubuntu became a hit. On one hand, it's getting us better drivers, but on the other, we start getting too much acceptance of crappy releases from big name developers. A redhat release should set an example of what everyone should strive for, not the opposite.

    I'm almost to the point of just making my own distro, at least then, I could only ***** at myself

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    I think Fedora 8 was the best, so far. That's my opinion, but what I've read.
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    hmmm, talking about the greatness of Fedora 7 and 8 makes me wish I had jumped on the linux train sooner! 9 didn't do it for me, and I don't really have any inclination to try 10.

    @ meton_magis: I hear you, I wish I had a little more experience and knowledge (and time), and I'd just do it myself. Things get easier when you take control (and that's what linux is all about!).

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    It's funny - I had a bad experience with Linux Mint 6

    I have always had a bit of a soft spot for Mint so I decided to give 6 a try and installed it on my laptop. As I expected everything just works. It is a really good distro. So good in fact that I decided to put it on my main desktop. So I booted the Live CD which worked wonderfully. On to the install then...

    What a palava!

    I decided to dual boot in case I didn't like it as much as I hoped I would and that turned out to be the best decision I have ever made!

    It won't even install on my (100% Ubuntu compatible) desktop machine; it gets about two thirds of the way though and drops to a console. GDM tries to restart several times and then there is the best error message of all time.

    Folks, this one even even beats "No keyboard detected. Press F1 to continue"

    The error message is "GDM has tried to restart about 6 times in the last 90 seconds. Something bad is happening"

    Well no **** Sherlock!

    Rebooting into my previous system taught me that you shouldn't share home directories between distros. That took a bit of sorting out.

    A couple of hours on Google has revealed nothing so I am off to try again but this time with a different home directory in case that was the cause.

    Now to find out how to specify a different home directory when creating a user...

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