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I was messing around today doing some Live CD downloading and testing, man half of these new Linux releases wont boot from a SATA DVD Rom Drive?? I find that ...
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    Whats up with most Linux releases not booting from a SATA Rom Drive?

    I was messing around today doing some Live CD downloading and testing, man half of these new Linux releases wont boot from a SATA DVD Rom Drive?? I find that funny and pretty sad at the same time......LOL. Tried PCLinuxOS, Fedora, and a couple others...... Ubuntu and Debian load up fine though......

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    They don't? That explains a problem I was having yesterday then! Is there a work-around to this at all?
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    Yea, hook up a IDE rom.....LOL. I tried and tried but some of these Distro's just wont boot from a SATA Rom Drive..... you would think that they would wake up and get something compatible with modern systems...... Linux in general still has a long way to go if it want to make inroads in to Microsofts stranglehold.

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    I have never had a distro not boot from my SATA dvd-rom. It is probably the chipset the motherboard uses for your SATA.

    Mine uses the Intel ICH9 chipset btw, and the intel chipsets are very well supported in the kernel.

    So it most likely isn't the dvd-rom, but the chipset that is giving you problems.

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    I have a sata CD rom, it's been in the PC for a couple of years. I have no problems booting up in the manner you're having problems with. I've only ran Fedora and Slax from it as Live CDs, but it seemed fine to me.

    Before you go asking for the Linux community to get it's act together and support these devices, perhaps you should investigate your system and see if there are any hardware faults that you're not aware of.

    And why should you think that Linux needs to make inroads into some perceived stranglehold of Microsoft's? They have no monopoly over my computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lvcoyote View Post
    Yea, hook up a IDE rom.....LOL. I tried and tried but some of these Distro's just wont boot from a SATA Rom Drive..... you would think that they would wake up and get something compatible with modern systems...... Linux in general still has a long way to go if it want to make inroads in to Microsofts stranglehold.
    And for what it is worth, I have to use a floppy with drivers on it for any Windows install to see my hard drives on my Intel ICH9 chipset (set on AHCI). Linux has drivers included in the kernel.

    IMO, if a normal user had to install windows and then had to install linux, they would more than likely be able to get through the linux install and not the windows install.

    You think wireless drivers are a pain in Linux, try installing wireless drivers in Windows. I have one card that won't even work in windows anymore because Vista/7 says it is too old, and the other one randomly blue screens any version of windows no matter which driver I use. I realize that isn't Windows fault, but it doesn't make me want to use Windows more than Linux where both the cards have kernel drivers built into the kernel (madwifi and rt61).

    Windows is slowly falling behind in hardware support and it won't be long that hardware manufacturers include Linux drivers on their disks. A lot of Video card manufacturers already do.

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    Guys, these versions wont boot fom a SATA DVD rom, Like I said a lot of them do just fine, but some wont. It could be chipset support as mentioned, this particular board has the ICH10R intel chipset..... that could be it. It's just odd to me that some of these newest Linux versions wont boot from a SATA Rom Drive. I can pop a Debian 5.03 and Ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 release in there and it boots just fine......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lvcoyote View Post
    Guys, these versions wont boot fom a SATA DVD rom, Like I said a lot of them do just fine, but some wont. It could be chipset support as mentioned, this particular board has the ICH10R intel chipset..... that could be it. It's just odd to me that some of these newest Linux versions wont boot from a SATA Rom Drive. I can pop a Debian 5.03 and Ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 release in there and it boots just fine......
    Fedora 9, 10, 11, and 12 beta boot fine from my SATA dvd-rom, and I actually installed it from the livecd onto my hard drive.

    PCLinuxOS doesn't have a problem either, because I tried it about a year ago and it booted right up.

    P45 motherboard / Intel ICH10R - Phoronix Forums
    That is an interesting thread about the ICH10R chipset, and it says that to get some livecds to boot you have to put the cdrom into legacy ide mode or ahci mode. So that would be a chipset problem, and it is fixable by changing a setting in the bios.

    My ICH9 is in AHCI, and my ide drives on my jmicron ide controller are picked up as SATA drives because of it. It makes everything easier to me.

    Let me test the Windows livecd to see if it works......Oh, n/m, there isn't one. Windows has a fit if my SATA DVD-Rom isn't set on legacy IDE and requires drivers on a floppy or a usb key if it set to ANYTHING else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lvcoyote View Post
    Guys, these versions wont boot fom a SATA DVD rom,
    No, you're incorrect. I just tried my Fedora 11 Live CD, and it boots fine from a SATA DVD ROM drive. Fedora is one of the distributions you mentioned, and I had a Live CD version to hand, so I've checked it out. Either as gruven says it's a chipset issue, or you've got a hardware problem in your system.
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    I dont think its a hardware issue because like I said other distro's boot just fine to live CD. I agree, its a chipset thing more than likely.

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