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    Can Windows Hyper-V run on top of Sun VirtualBox

    Hi folks,

    host - Ubuntu 10.04 bit
    VM (guest) Win 7 64 bit
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    Can I install Windows Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 on Win 7. I.E. run Windows virtualizer on top of Sun virtualizer? Thanks

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    Good question! I assume you are running the Ubuntu host OS in 64-bit mode? If not, then change it, and make sure that you have the hardware virtualization support in the BIOS enabled. Here is some info from the current VirtualBox (not the open source edition) user docs:
    3.1 Supported guest operating systems
    Since VirtualBox is designed to provide a generic virtualization environment for x86
    systems, it may run operating systems of any kind, even those that are not officially
    supported by Oracle Corporation. However, our focus is to optimize the product’s
    performance for a select list of guest systems:
    Windows NT 4.0 All versions/editions and service packs are fully supported; however,
    there are some issues with older service packs. We recommend to install
    service pack 6a. Guest Additions are available with a limited feature set.
    Windows 2000 / XP / Server 2003 / Vista / Server 2008 / Windows 7 All versions/
    editions and service packs are fully supported (including 64-bit versions,
    under the preconditions listed below). Guest Additions are available.
    .
    .
    .
    3.1.2 64-bit guests
    Starting with version 2.0, VirtualBox supports 64-bit guest operating systems. Starting
    with version 2.1, you can even run 64-bit guests on a 32-bit host operating system.
    The hardware prerequisites are identical for both cases.
    In particular, 64-bit guests are supported under the following conditions:
    1. You need a 64-bit processor with hardware virtualization support (see chapter
    10.2, Hardware vs. software virtualization, page 184).
    2. You must enable hardware virtualization for the particular VM for which you
    want 64-bit support; software virtualization is not supported for 64-bit VMs.
    3. If you want to use 64-bit guest support on a 32-bit host operating system, you
    must also select a 64-bit operating system for the particular VM. Since supporting
    64 bits on 32-bit hosts incurs additional overhead, VirtualBox only enables this
    support upon explicit request.
    On 64-bit hosts, 64-bit guest support is always enabled, so you can simply install
    a 64-bit operating system in the guest.

    Warning: On any host, you should enable the I/O APIC for virtual machines
    that you intend to use in 64-bit mode. This is especially true for 64-bit Windows
    VMs. See chapter 3.3.2, “Advanced” tab, page 50. In addition, for 64-bit
    Windows guests, you should make sure that the VM uses the Intel networking
    device, since there is no 64-bit driver support for the AMD PCNet card;
    see chapter 6.1, Virtual networking hardware, page 102.

    If you use the “Create VM” wizard of the VirtualBox graphical user interface (see
    chapter 1.6, Creating your first virtual machine, page 17), VirtualBox will automatically
    use the correct settings for each selected 64-bit operating system type.
    So, it may be possible to do so, but you will need to try it out to see.
    Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real time.
    Just remember, Semper Gumbi - always be flexible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubberman View Post
    Good question! I assume you are running the Ubuntu host OS in 64-bit mode? If not, then change it, and make sure that you have the hardware virtualization support in the BIOS enabled. Here is some info from the current VirtualBox (not the open source edition) user docs:

    So, it may be possible to do so, but you will need to try it out to see.
    Hi,

    Thanks for your advice.

    All OSs on host and VMs are 64 bit. BIOS supports hardware virtualization already enabled. Otherwise VBox can't work.

    This is only for testing.

    I ran several virtualizers before, Xen (Open Source), KVM/QEMU, OpenVZ, VServer, VMWare, VBox etc. To save space not to run each of them on its own PC I tested them on its own hard drive installed in the same PC. But it is inconvenient I have to install several hard disc in the PC. Now I'm prepared testing MS Hyper-V server I wonder whether I can run a virtualizer on top of another virtualizer.

    I never run Hyper-V before. I'm going to install it on 64 bit WinXP VM. I don't know whether Ubuntu host can support it?


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    I never run Hyper-V before. I'm going to install it on 64 bit WinXP VM. I don't know whether Ubuntu host can support it?
    Linux would probably be a better host than XP, especially since 64-bit XP is not particularly stable, in my opinion.
    Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real time.
    Just remember, Semper Gumbi - always be flexible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubberman View Post
    Linux would probably be a better host than XP, especially since 64-bit XP is not particularly stable, in my opinion.
    Can MS Hyper-V run on Linux other than Redhat? I don't have Redhat here. I have 64 bit Win 7 running on a VM. I can install Hyper-V on it.

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    If hyper-V can run on Win7, then try it. You might want to make a copy of your Win7 virtual disc first though, in case it gets munged.
    Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real time.
    Just remember, Semper Gumbi - always be flexible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubberman View Post
    You might want to make a copy of your Win7 virtual disc first though, in case it gets munged.
    Yes, sure. Thanks. This is my practice. I will clone at least 2 VMs from the original VM which has a new installed OS. I never touch the original VM.

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    Hi Rubberman,

    Windows 7 64 bit


    The test failed.

    On VirtualBox -> Settings -> Shared Folders

    I was NOT allowed to select the folder containing Hyper-V ISO.

    For folders containing other ISO I can select it. After starting the Windows OS, I can map the folder selected reading the contents in the ISO


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    Last edited by satimis; 07-10-2010 at 05:00 AM.

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    That isn't the way to do it (mounting an ISO). You go into the VM Devices->CDROM menu and mount it that way. It will appear as a mounted disc (CD) in Windows. Then you just install it in the normal way.
    Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real time.
    Just remember, Semper Gumbi - always be flexible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubberman View Post
    That isn't the way to do it (mounting an ISO). You go into the VM Devices->CDROM menu and mount it that way. It will appear as a mounted disc (CD) in Windows. Then you just install it in the normal way.
    Yes, I just install it.

    Hyper-v Server 2008 R2 64 bit

    Wonderful I have it installed on a VM of Oracle VirtualBox. It is running. I can start it and login. But there is no GUI. I think 64 bit is a command line version. Where can I find a tutorial?


    I performed 2 tests.

    1)
    Direct install it on a VM without OS

    2)
    Install it on Win 7 VM 64 bit

    The final result is the same. Win 7 is deleted. I think it is a stand alone server.


    satimis

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