RIP OpenSolaris

[techieMoe]

Solaris still sorta open, but OpenSolaris distro is dead

I figured this would happen when Oracle bought Sun. Does anyone have an opinion?

[HROAdmin26]

Yes.

1) Oracle blows.

2) Sun hardware prices have TRIPLED since Oracle bought them. (Cheapest T1000 used to be ~$3-4K, now is $12K)

3) Why do we have gov again? Worthless DOJ rubber-stamps every "merger" and says "consumer choice will not be impacted."

4) Oracle will find a way to strangle MySQL too.

5) Oh yeah, Oracle blows.

Hey, you asked for opinions.

[Lazydog]

Mergers are normally not made with the client/customers wants/needs in mind. Sad but true.

[elija]

4) Oracle will find a way to strangle MySQL too.

Take a look at MariaDB which aims to be pretty much a drop in replacement

Currently (CR)Apple and (D)O(H)rical seem to be engaged in a "who can be the most evil" competition. I wish them both the same success as SCO.

[Roxoff]

Solaris still sorta open, but OpenSolaris distro is dead

I figured this would happen when Oracle bought Sun. Does anyone have an opinion?

I don't think this is a problem. In many ways it's very liberating for the Open Source community and especially for OpenSolaris. The project has been forked as Illumos and it no longer has to worry about what the parent project thinks.

MySQL is equally as safe, and for exactly the same reason.

If Oracle don't care about the direction taken by the open version of their own operating system, then the community that is driving it will take it the way they want to go. Oracle loses any control over the project, and if they're not going to provide leadership and direction to the project, then it's better for all parties that they're not involved.

[GNU-Fan]

I am not as optimistic as Roxoff in this regard.

OpenSolaris has never been that strongly supported by an independent community. The most work was done by employees of a singly company, and these people were now assigned other tasks. That is a different situation from, say, Linux.

I doubt OpenSolaris has acclaimed critical mass to survive on its own as a fork. It's a bit sad though.

PS: The OpenSolaris Governing Board just has resigned.
2010 08 23 OGB Agenda - Genunix

[Lazydog]

OK, I know a person that works for Oracle that I was able to finally talk with and here is their take on all of this.

The prices of hardware have gone up because Oracle isn't giving the deep discounts on the hardware that Sun was giving. Oracle is just charging what Sun would have charged without the discounts. Oracle has place a lot of money into this merger and they are looking to get something in return. Will this move hurt their sales? Who know for sure I guess it all comes down to the sales force.

MySQL should be safe. This was on of the biggest sticking points for EU to approve the merger. It is their opinion that MySQL is safe and will remain as it is now.

[cms9000]

Oracle. Another company doing it all wrong. Illumos will make it, even if it is at a slower pace then Linux or BSD. Making money is fine but there are certain ways of doing things. Plus doing it all at once, or in a very short time, is never a good idea. They could have supported OpenSolaris. But they chose not to and worse they kept people guessing and never gave anyone an answer for quite awhile.

Is Oracle still suing Google and is Google still teamed up with Verizon and selling out net neutrality? Hmmm, Who to hate... Ok, I hate them all, lol.

[waterhead]

Let's not forget that Oracle also now owns Open Office. I doubt that OO.o will remain a free office suite. Oracle's main purpose in this acquisition is to squeeze as much money out of the Sun products that they can. It's (Sun's) existing customer and user base seems irrelevant to them.

[cms9000]

Edward Screven Oracle Audio Interview


http://streaming.oracle.com/ebn/podc...ven_060110.mp3


It talks about Linux, Java and Open Office but it doesn't talk about OpenSolaris.