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Originally Posted by Segfault Did you try Radeon or RadeonHD? (I think they merged lately, but a few months ago they were separate drivers). It was "xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.13.0-1ubuntu5" There's another ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Segfault View Post
    Did you try Radeon or RadeonHD? (I think they merged lately, but a few months ago they were separate drivers).
    It was "xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.13.0-1ubuntu5"

    There's another radeonHD, driver, version 1.3.0-2, but I didn't see it as being compatible because it says it's for r5xx, and r6xx, and my GPU is an "M880G"..

    (On windows this GPU isn't without faults though. On Windows, I can't use ATI drivers, I MUST go to HP for the ATI driver, and of course, it's a year old..)

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    Gentoo Linux Documentation -- Gentoo Linux ATI FAQ

    Mobile ATI can be a pita. Beats me why they can't keep it compatible with desktop cards.

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    Yea I figured mobile ATI would be ridiculous..

    I would have gotten a laptop with Nvidia, but this laptops specs were top of the line for when I bought it last black friday..

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    It's my understanding that the issues with graphics cards are energy consumption and heat. In a card designed for a desktop, you put in a larger PSU to handle the increased power needs, and a larger fan to handle the heat issues, but in a laptop, you are limited by the battery to how much power you can use, and the small physical size of the case makes handling a hot GPU troublesome. To get around these limitations laptop graphics cards are designed differently than desktop cards.

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    Well ATI's linux driver has the PowerPlay mode, which is how it uses less energy in Windows, but in Linux, it must not work because it still uses too much..

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    I really understand you. I'm still using Windows Vista as my primary OS on my laptop. It just works. There are days when there's nothing that seems more fun to me than tinkering with my OS and adding / removing apps, searching for drivers, editing configuration files to get the best performance etc. but some days I need my computer to work reliably and do what I want it to do without any hassle to get some work done. And that usually is easier in Windows.

    A couple tips in case it's been a long time you've used Windows:
    Avast! and Microsoft Security Essentials are two lightweight very effective real-time malware protection programs (and free) (but only use one, off course)
    Standard Windows 7 Firewall is safe if you use safe settings
    Malwarebytes Free is a better scanner and malware remover but has no realtime-protection
    Iobit Smartdefrag and Advanced Systemcare (free editions) are the solution when it's running a little slow

    I do dualboot though, 4 gb is enough for a lighter distro, Lilo with 3 second waiting time before booting windows, and in case I need a linux-only app / feature I can just reboot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBorneu View Post
    I really understand you. I'm still using Windows Vista as my primary OS on my laptop. It just works. There are days when there's nothing that seems more fun to me than tinkering with my OS and adding / removing apps, searching for drivers, editing configuration files to get the best performance etc. but some days I need my computer to work reliably and do what I want it to do without any hassle to get some work done. And that usually is easier in Windows.

    A couple tips in case it's been a long time you've used Windows:
    Avast! and Microsoft Security Essentials are two lightweight very effective real-time malware protection programs (and free) (but only use one, off course)
    Standard Windows 7 Firewall is safe if you use safe settings
    Malwarebytes Free is a better scanner and malware remover but has no realtime-protection
    Iobit Smartdefrag and Advanced Systemcare (free editions) are the solution when it's running a little slow

    I do dualboot though, 4 gb is enough for a lighter distro, Lilo with 3 second waiting time before booting windows, and in case I need a linux-only app / feature I can just reboot.
    I won't need any protection software. I am actually MCP certified, and am a tech, and just know how to not get in trouble on Windows.. So I know Windows pretty much inside out..

    Also 4GB of RAM is enough for even a heavy linux distro.. I mean, 4GB should be more than enough for any OS that's coded efficiently.. On Ubuntu with all sorts of effects, I'm not even using 30% of the RAM, and not even touching paging.

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    Hi-tech criminals are writing viruses which never go wild (means no detection by anti-virus software) and are designed to run unnoticed. Security experts estimate heuristics based detection stops under %35 of malwares.
    With XSS no web site can be 100% trusted.
    All that stuff wreaks havoc on Windows because it has long-long list of unpatched security flaws.
    People restrict themselves severely trying to limit their internet activities to what they think is safe. Of course, it does not guarantee anything, but it certainly mars their internet experience.
    Some people even try to claim they never had a virus. How do you know?

    And every now and then somebody tries to compare Windows and Linux.

    Would you seriously compare a car which has no brakes and steering to a car which can be stopped and directed.

    How comes people do not understand when it comes to internet Windows is not a choice?
    If you feel the need to compare pick something else, Mac OS X will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segfault View Post
    Hi-tech criminals are writing viruses which never go wild (means no detection by anti-virus software) and are designed to run unnoticed. Security experts estimate heuristics based detection stops under %35 of malwares.
    With XSS no web site can be 100% trusted.
    All that stuff wreaks havoc on Windows because it has long-long list of unpatched security flaws.
    People restrict themselves severely trying to limit their internet activities to what they think is safe. Of course, it does not guarantee anything, but it certainly mars their internet experience.
    Some people even try to claim they never had a virus. How do you know?

    And every now and then somebody tries to compare Windows and Linux.

    Would you seriously compare a car which has no brakes and steering to a car which can be stopped and directed.

    How comes people do not understand when it comes to internet Windows is not a choice?
    If you feel the need to compare pick something else, Mac OS X will do.
    There is seriously nothing wrong with Windows on the internet.

    I have found, in my professional opinion (i am also a network security professional), that most virus' just get on peoples computers because they are just tricked into getting them, going to porn sites, and/or are social engineering.. Sure some get in without you doing anything, but with all these security patches and better browsers other than IE, that really isnt much of a problem anymore..

    Like I said, I know I never had a Virus because every year for the hell of it, I'd install all sorts of scanning tools, and NEVER one virus is found.. I even run a Windows 2003 domain controller in my closet, that has an uptime of a few years, it does DC, DNS, RIS, VPN, all sorts of things, it's part of the DMZ on the network, and never a virus...

    PS: I use OS X, Windows, Linux, I've even used AmigaOS, and BeOS.. But at this point in time, I'm begining to find Windows just more reliable.. Even OS X has it's flaws. There was an OS X update a little while ago that caused web browsers based on webkit to crash like 8 times a day, it was terrible. Took Apple nearly a month to fix, it, while several users already switched to Firefox, a non-webkit browser, and likely didn't go back..

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    But at this point in time, I'm begining to find Windows just more reliable.
    Not sure what that reliability means.
    I'm running exclusively Gentoo ~arch (testing) on my desktops since 2004. I've never experienced an operating system crash, have had apps crashing but never needed to reboot because of these, had a few hardware lockups because of overclocking.

    Good luck with your choice.

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