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After several weeks, I can say I very much like Linux Mint as my home box distro but have discovered that LXDE is not a good WM/DE for me. It ...
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- 11-13-2011 #1
Back to IceWM
After several weeks, I can say I very much like Linux Mint as my home box distro but have discovered that LXDE is not a good WM/DE for me. It looks great and is fairly simple to use and configure but I've noticed a severe hit in responsiveness and speed over my previous home box distro, CRUX.
CRUX with IceWM is just blindingly fast so it would be unfair to expect Mint with LXDE to be even close. I was curious though to know just how much of the sluggishness was related to running LXDE so I installed IceWM, my old tried-and-true standby window manger since 2002. The difference is very noticeable. Now, my machine isn't running a lot of unnecessary apps, videos play more smoothly and programs open quicker.
So, it's back to IceWM for me! I know it's old, plain and a little clunky looking compared to other WM/DEs, but it's well worth it when running one of the fastest Window Mangers available.
- 11-13-2011 #2
That's interesting. My Crux runs Openbox, which is essentially the same as lxde. I use pypanel with it but there's no "unnecessary apps". What ones does lxde run?
Do you think IceWM is faster than Openbox? If so, I might try it."I'm just a little old lady; don't try to dazzle me with jargon!"
- 11-13-2011 #3
- Join Date
- May 2004
- arch linux
- 11-13-2011 #4
I switched over to tiling window managers not long ago, and I'm finding them to be pretty minimalist and responsive (and entirely keyboard-driven!). Have you ever tried wmii or i3 (which I'm using now)? How do they compare?
- 11-13-2011 #5
LXDE depends on openbox but has other processes added to get the full LXDE desktop. Straight openbox (which I also like) is perhaps slightly faster than IceWM but IceWM feels like an old friend. I just did a comparison of processes running when logging into both. IceWM: 63. LXDE: 85. Under CRUX, I think total processes running under IceWM was around 3...
LXDE takes a bit to get up and going whereas IceWM comes up almost instantaneously. I also find IceWM easier to configure than either LXDE or openbox but that's just my personal preference since I've been running it for so long. Cabhan, I'll check those out. Thanks!
EDIT: It could be Mint-LXDE is different than vanilla LXDE. I wouldn't know though since this is my first experience with it.
- 11-13-2011 #6
- Join Date
- May 2004
- arch linux
One thing I'd like to see the IceWM devs do is make it where you can easily disable the frames around any application launch icons in the IceWM panel. If that can be done easily already, I never was able to figure out how to do it, although I have seen a patch that comes with some themes that apparently allows the user to disable them.oz
- 11-13-2011 #7
- 11-14-2011 #8
Old bikers never grow old. They get better with age.I know it's old, plain and a little clunky looking compared to other WM/DEs,
We both are longtime Icewm users. Glad to see ya back in the pack. Just to show how pretty and light. Here is my tweaked Fluxbox .
and tweaked Icewm
Plain and clunky they aint. Notice all the cruft opened up plus extra stuff runnuing on fluxbox, (first link), and the ram usage in conky.
I also played with Semplice Linux which uses Open Box. I only played with it a few days though. I don't have another box to run it on so I just ran off of a persistent USB.
If I was to install it. Believe me. I would trick that baby out also. Nothing like a paint job and some new chrome to make a old clunker vehicle/chopper look like the bees knees.
- 11-14-2011 #9
Guys, I know IceWM can be made to appear all sorts of interesting ways but with the stock themes it appears plain looking compared to other more recent WMs and DEs and... that's how I prefer it. Good old Icedesert for me! Plain and fast suits my sensibilities of function over form. I know I'm in the minority here but eye candy has just never been important for me. I think every screenshot I've ever posted here is a testament to that.
- 11-14-2011 #10