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- Jul 2008
Windows Managers on My EEEPCs. FTW.
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Need to slow down on the eggnog. I can't believe how buzzed I was reading this the next day.
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- Dec 2011
Having read this thread I thought I'd join up (honestly thought I already had a membership!) and post rather than browse like I have for years.
I don't really get the whole inefficiency comment personally. I was a user of Gnome 2.x for many years, before moving to XFCE recently, and now back to Gnome 3.x as its matured.
I personally do not understand how moving your mouse cursor to the top left corner, then typing a couple of letters on your keyboard and hitting return to open something is "worse" than selecting it from Gnome 2's menu. Sure its different, but it certainly isn't worse.
I find I'm actually more efficient using the new interface versus using the old menu system, and it certainly looks nicer overall.
I understand its different and doesn't appeal to everyone as we all have different tastes, but as a power user I fail to see it when compared to XFCE or Gnome 2.x.
Gnome 3 however, runs absolutely fine on my laptop. Its a Dell D630, with a dual core 2.0GHz Intel CPU, 2GB DDR2, 16MB On-board video, and having run XFCE on it for months I'm seeing very little difference with Gnome 3. I'm running openSUSE 12.1. I have to admit the reason I ran XFCE was because of concerns with performance using Gnome 3 due to the older hardware. But I wish I'd had a go sooner tbh as it runs absolutely fine.
There is a big difference between Unity and Gnome 3 as well. I'm not a fan of Unity at all as it feels too "tablet" styled in my opinion. I've fallen out of favour with the whole distro really -- I don't feel they've made anything solid since they first launched 6.06, but again that's a personal opinion and I realise its subjective at best.
I don't think its a case of eyecandy this and that, I think Gnome 3 represents an evolution in DE's. At the end of the day I'm sure Gnome 1.x > 2.x was met with the same concern and negative reviews in the beginning. It is hard to change from something you have become acustomed to over many years of reliable service. But, sometimes it is also worth the change, and while its different, in the long run those that adapt to it will likely find it works just as well, just in a different manner.
I'm new here, so I'll give a brief introduction. I've been using Linux daily since 2005. I cut my teeth with Ubuntu, before moving onto Slackware. Then onto Fedora, Debian and SUSE. These days I use Debian, CentOS, openSUSE, SUSE and 'buntu (more clients than myself). I've used KDE (I've never liked it, but tried it to see if I could get used to it on many occasions), Gnome 2/3, and XFCE 4.6/4.8.
I find that Gnome 2.x just doesn't work for me having used and started adapting to its newer release. So I tend to now use XFCE for most installs (No GUI on servers though for obvious reasons) and stick to openSUSE 12.1 and Gnome 3.2 for my personal usage.
Last edited by Leeky; 12-23-2011 at 06:40 PM.
Using either the keyboard or the mouse is fine, but having to use the mouse, then the keyboard, then the mouse, is not an efficient way to get things done. If you have to click, then clicking should be all you have to do, not drop the mouse and then type. But if it works for you, fine.
I have an aftermarket 32GB SSD in my eee, not the original slow one. I'm not sure why, but mousing to the upper left corner and clicking on Applications takes many seconds before anything happens. It takes far too long to find and open anything. I just refuse to spend that much time waiting, when I'll never get that time back.
I have come to the conclusion for me a DE offers little benefit for the performance cost so use IceWM. Other systems have gnome2 for the moment Mint Debian Edition (some running testing and some running stable). I'll wait and see how gnome3 works out on the systems, if it does not they will be switching to IceWM. A default IceWM is short of icons on the desktop and automatic menu updates - otherwise I'd just use it on all systems ...
I'm glad gnome3 is available for people who want to use it ... and that alternatives are available and being developed for people who don't
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- Dec 2011
I appreciate people have different opinions, (and I'm sure this doesn't apply to you) but reading the various negative comments online I've come to the conclusion that most people are just knocking it because someone else is, and its "cool" to join in. I'd be surprised if most people have even used it for more than 5 mins (if at all) before summarising it as useless.
That said, the wealth of options for WM's or DE's means there is always something to please someone. We're mostly all here for the same reasons, and regardless of what we use the underpinnings of the OS are why were are all here.
If the only way to use a desktop environment that approaches efficiency is to bypass it by using short-cuts or use the CLI, the DE is not very good.
A few Ubuntuphiles support Unity with the argument that the slow navigation through the series of full-screen menus can be avoided with hot-keys. "Unity is great! I bypass the GUI, but Unity is great!"
Yeah, if you have to use the keyboard, what's the use of a GUI?
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