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    Got a little excited though it is actually:

    Code:
    whois 123.123.123.123
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    thats good to know. i am thinking that people need to instead of just ignoring spam and phish they need to either report it or do something to stop it. man if my snail mail box was as cluttered as my email i would just stop taking mail all together.
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    how do you trace these people back

    i keep getting loads of e-mains from idiots trying to sell me viagra, if i met one of them in real life, id punch them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxygen
    i keep getting loads of e-mains from idiots trying to sell me viagra, if i met one of them in real life, id punch them
    Me too buddy!

    Look at your mail header. This is something you are going to have to learn on your own because good spammers will spoof there address a few times but the right one is in there you just need to figure out how. I can't tell you because it is different each time, but after a while you will figure it out. (It is easier for me because I run my own mail server and they can't hide behind the logs). Once you figure out the real address go to a shell and type
    whois 123.123.123.123 # 123 being the real IP such as 63.117.54.230 <fake IP
    then it will tell you who their ISP is then take a copy of the header, the original email, and with the whois report and email it to there ISP.

    If you get 3 from the same people that is illegal and they can be prosecuted. IF it doesn't comply with the CAN SPAM ACT they can be prosecuted or at the very least a good ISP will drop them.

    (Under the CAN SPAM ACT they can spam you legally but they have to comply with the rules which they never do so this is not usually an issue.)

    example of some rules.
    must have an opt out clause (They usually do but either they phish for your valid email address with it or it doesn't work at all) I never use this feature even if believed to be real.

    If advertisement must say it in subject line.
    Rarely done

    If x-rated must state in subject line
    I get mortgage refi ads with X-rated subject lines -groovy-

    These are just a few, but I can honestly say I have never received one spam that complied with the act.

    I know this doesn't answer completely but there is some learning involved hopefully it gets you moving in the right direction.
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    hey i appreciate that advice too i want to start tracking these guys down i think if every person on force would do this they would surely stop after a while i would hope and prey.
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    Hey guys, guess what! I won an certain mp3 player made by apple which is on the spam list, laptop, the lottery, and an inheritance all in one day!!! Woooo!

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    what keeps me awake at night is the fact that they wouldnt do this if they didnt have a market.
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    i have been contacting providers like mad with information on thier users sending out illegal spam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benjamin20
    what keeps me awake at night is the fact that they wouldnt do this if they didnt have a market.
    I was reading an article about some ISP on the east coast. I don't remember which one exactly, but it was a bigger one that hosted corporate websites. Anyways they vowed not to sell email addresses anymore, and they said that they would loose about 7 million dollars a year if they quit doing it. So that is the kind of market we are fighting. Amazing how much money is involve in such a scam.
    I wonder how much money Viagra and Mortgage refi places would loose if they advertised legitimately. Really do we need to buy viagra online?
    Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had.
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    people all the time go to those site and allow the spammers to succeed. plus i got an email today telling the name of a forum that i can get captured credit cards and credit card making equipment. i mean how brazent of these people to advertise products used to break the law.
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