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Originally Posted by genesus hmm kids huffing computer cleaner to the dangers of milk Yes it's been an interesting, if somewhat 'tense' thread. I also try to buy Organic where ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by genesus
    hmm kids huffing computer cleaner to the dangers of milk
    Yes it's been an interesting, if somewhat 'tense' thread.

    I also try to buy Organic where possible as I would rather not ingest anything unnatural. One day I guess I will live on a farm and drink fresh milk & grow my own vegetables.... seems perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by techieMoe
    I see it as complaining, because I have yet to hear the proposed alternative that everyday people have to using these supposedly "bad" products.
    Political change I guess.Pressure to change the laws.And of course
    it also serves as a warning for people who live in countries which
    haven't gone down that path yet.This is an international forum after all.
    That's not entering into the fact that I've seen no convincing medical evidence that the dairy products most of us have used our entire lives are in any way harmful enough to warrant such a switch, even given a viable alternative.
    Some of Gamer's claims do sound dodgy.On the other hand I have heard
    about farm animals being given antibiotics as a precaution against
    them getting sick and the danger is that it helps the evolution of
    antibiotics resistant bacteria.This of course in not specifically related
    to cows or milk.
    this is no different than saying "the sky is falling!"
    If the sky were falling I would want to know about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPG_Gamer
    The reason Dairy is bad is because the Milk comes from cows who are fed cheap food that results in unhealthy cows which require anti-biotics to stay alive. The cows also have hormones injected into them to make them grow faster. All these anti-biotics and hormones come out in the milk...
    This sounds reasonable but I don't think it applies to all countries.I remember
    several years back there was a row between E.U. and U.S.A. because E.U.
    wanted meat imported from U.S.A. to bear a warning that it comes from
    animals fed with hormones but obviously U.S.A. didn't want that.
    I never heard about it again so I don't know how it was resolved.
    ...which is then pasteurized (heated) which is known to destroy vitamins/minerals and promote the occurance of free radicals and carcinogens.
    This on the other hand I don't buy.I'll have to see evidence to be
    convinced.And of course pasteurization is important for killing harmful organisms.
    The Milk is also unecessarily Homogenized which just mixes up the fat with the milk which makes it unhealthier.
    I don't see why homogenized milk would be unhealthier than non homogenized
    one.
    Finally due to transportation, storage, selling the milk etc, the milk you buy is about several weeks old.
    This sounds very improbable to me.For some milk it may be true but I think
    that what gets advertised as fresh milk arrives at the stores one day after
    it left the cow.

    Having said that , if you can buy organic milk or even better have your own
    cow by all means go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa's little helper
    Political change I guess.Pressure to change the laws. ...
    Perhaps that's why I didn't follow his line of thinking at all. I try to stay out of politics as much as possible.
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    I find politics rather interesting, although I can only defend my political views properly after a good drink or two. The recent election in the UK of the 5th of May was very enjoyable into the early hours whereby I wouldn't have a lager until the first Conservative vote was confirmed. The fact I was ill for the next two weeks had nothing to do with Labour still winning, I think.
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    hate drugs, a few of my freinds started taking them, and they just ass whipes sence, there always spacy, and they smoke a whole lot....

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    Let people smoke what they want, it is up to them. If you don't like smoking what they do then don't. I know quite a few people who smoke a wide range of stuff, it is up to them, I have no chance is trying to convince them to stop. I don't smoke anything and I sure as hell plan to keep it that way.
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    But the original poster was not talking about what people smoked, or what drugs they did.
    He was talking about 12-13 year old kids, inhaling DUST-OFF.

    Diferent can of worms.

    IMO
    And i don't think 12-13 year old kids or anyine under 18, have the right to do drugs of any kind, from cigarettes to heroin and everything in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by budman7
    But the original poster was not talking about what people smoked, or what drugs they did.
    He was talking about 12-13 year old kids, inhaling DUST-OFF.
    Indeed. He wasn't talking about hormone-enhanced cows either. Haha. Whoops.

    IMO
    And i don't think 12-13 year old kids or anyine under 18, have the right to do drugs of any kind, from cigarettes to heroin and everything in between.
    Agreed. I would extend that to anyone regardless of age, but that's just me.
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