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china is not like the US. they dont have to give options. they are more like microsoft....
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- 06-08-2005 #11
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- 06-08-2005 #12Originally Posted by techieMoe
Article 35. Freedom of speech, press, assembly
Citizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration.
Article 41. Right to petition the state
Citizens of the People's Republic of China have the right to criticize and make suggestions regarding any state organ or functionary. Citizens have the right to make to relevant state organs complaints or charges against, or exposures of, any state organ or functionary for violation of the law or dereliction of duty, but fabrication or distortion of facts for purposes of libel or false incrimination is prohibited.
The state organ concerned must deal with complaints, charges or exposures made by citizens in a responsible manner after ascertaining the facts. No one may suppress such complaints, charges and exposures or retaliate against the citizens making them.
Citizens who have suffered losses as a result of infringement of their civic rights by any state organ or functionary have the right to compensation in accordance with the law.
the real issue here is freedom of political expression
- 06-08-2005 #13Originally Posted by Krendoshazin
And yes, China does not have "freedoms" as I see them. I complain about my government a lot but I'm happy I can at least express distaste with the morons that run my country without fear of retaliation.
- 06-08-2005 #14
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Hey all, I've just gotta jump in....
To my fellow Americans. Have you noticed where YOU live lately?!? What do you think happens if you check the wrong book out of the library, or use the words allah and bomb in the same sentance on your cell? How about showing up at a Bush fundraiser, where he's speaking, and excersising your "freedom of speech"? Try walking around with a sign that says Bush is a war criminal and see what happens. THEY'VE GOT YOU FOOLED!!!! And as far as the comments implying that China policing the internet is the symptom of the great communist conspiracy, how about you chime back in on the Patriot Act. And, while you're at it, how about a little background on Marx or communism in general. Or does your knowledge of the subject not exceed McCarthy era rants and, oh so endearing, Americanisms like "commy bastard"? I implore you.... STOP HELPING THEM!!!!!! PLEASE!! You are implicet in the problem. If this was to harsh, I am sorry. Then again, if you can imply a racial slur (sounds like slink... yuk yuk yuk), I can tell the rest of the world, that we arent all like you.... just the south is
- 06-08-2005 #15
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- 06-08-2005 #16Originally Posted by benjamin20
- 06-09-2005 #17
i dont think the US is perfect, but i rather live there than China.
- 06-09-2005 #18Originally Posted by geese
- 06-09-2005 #19
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ok, here's my point. Is the us a "safer" country than China? Of course. Do us citizens have more freedom than Chinese? Yes. Amsterdam? That's questionable. Canada? I dont think so. But the complacency intrinsic to your responses is what they're counting on. Freedom is not relative. It is or it isnt. And I dont think it exists here. Certainly not enough to warrant "and thats why I'm gald i live in the usa" comments. I'd also like it noted that the two intellectually stimulating responses of "?" came from those south of the mason dixon line (Moe and Ben, please know that I'm totally just poking fun, and if you guys are really offended, I really am sorry and will stop). Please feel free to responde with your point of view. I'm all about intellectual discourse, and do look forward to hearing opposing views. Thanks guys,
- 06-09-2005 #20Originally Posted by guitarinvegas
Just because you're not "glad to live in the USA" doesn't mean the rest of us are morons for having a different opinion. Some of us aren't so quick to jump down someone else's throat, as your original post did, no matter how well-intentioned.
I'd also like it noted that the two intellectually stimulating responses of "?" came from those south of the mason dixon line (Moe and Ben, please know that I'm totally just poking fun, and if you guys are really offended, I really am sorry and will stop).
That being said, I tend to stay out of politics. They're by nature volatile topics, so I'm going to bow out of this thread.