Not to be paranoid or a conspiracy theory advocate but...

[carlosponti]

all i was trying to say was that i didnt see YOUR point on illegal surveilence since that entails actual tracking putting up the technology to track is not surveilence. second privacy doesnt exist for you to get all paranoid about. third i have been coming to this forum long enough for moderators to know me and for you to accuse me of trolling is annoying and insulting.

just so you know what the word means

sur·veil·lance Audio pronunciation of "surveillance" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sr-vlns)
n.

1. Close observation of a person or group, especially one under suspicion.
2. The act of observing or the condition of being observed

[daacosta]

Carlos,

If you read more carefully you will see that it wasn't an accusation but a question to a moderator (i.e., he/she can decide after reading the thread.)

putting up the technology to track is not surveilence

I disagree and I do know the meaning of the word. Creating the conditions to be able to pursue surveilance is what you and I disagree with. I think it is wrong while you have no problems with that... Can we leave it at that?

privacy doesnt exist for you to get all paranoid about.

I already agreed with that one Carlos and threw my hands in the air if you read carefully... Though, that doesn't necessarily makes it right...

By the way, I also live in Oklahoma and I know where you live so be ready! Just kidding! I will pay for beers...

[carlosponti]

where the hell do you live at i need one of those beers already ha ha

[the0r3tic]

where the hell do you live at i need one of those beers already ha ha

Ye.