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    I'm reading an interesting series of books, at the moment, which dramatise the war of independence (from us) of the USA. As far as I can see, it was the French who won the USA their independence.

    Further, I was thinking of changing my own signature, what do you think of these?

    50% of all deaths suffered by British armed forces in Gulf War 1 were down to USA armed forces.
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    A young soldier has just received a George Cross (our 2nd highest bravery medal) for his courage when his armoured vehicle convoy was attacked, in Gulf War 2. He would have received the Victoria Cross (our highest bravery medal), but for one thing. The aircraft blowing the crap out of his vehcile and freinds, was an American A10 tank buster.

    Or perhaps, you may feel that a Linux forum is no place for such things.

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    I tried not to necesarily use quotes I believe in but quotes that bring people from the past alive. But there is no reason you can't or should think of your own quotable quotes. i.e "War is nothing more than semi-controlled kaos run by politians in uniform and paid for by our sons and daughters".

    As long as it doesn't offend our users which is different than not liking your personal msg. Offending would be something like equating a country or religion with its people. Another personal qoute could be about porn. "You can't put it into words but you know it when you see it".

    Just my opinion so don't take it too seriously.
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    A young soldier has just received a George Cross (our 2nd highest bravery medal) for his courage when his armoured vehicle convoy was attacked, in Gulf War 2. He would have received the Victoria Cross (our highest bravery medal), but for one thing. The aircraft blowing the crap out of his vehcile and freinds, was an American A10 tank buster.
    I'd say this one

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    sorry about that, but a lot of very good people have died just recently (from both our countries) and I'm a little sensitive (us ex-servicemen have a duty to try and make sure that our politicians don't see serving members of the armed forces and nothing more than disposabel uniforms).

    But, I do think I'll change my signature, as "Thekore" suggests

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    Freindly fire has occured for centuries and most likely before that as well. Its not to be taken lightly but as one of the many costs of war. All the more reason that it is one of the most serious decisions any leader of a country will ever make.

    I agree with the point of politicians using military people as polictical tools which I think is your main point. But it reads a piliot ( just a guy) from one side shot at a target based on what he believe to be a valid target. He was obvously wrong. But thats war and why it should always be a last resort.

    If your point is on the politicians using the military as pawns then I'd reword it as it is not clear as it is quoted and as it tends to create tentions between the peoples of the two counties and not the leaders. The people do the dying while the politicians go on to become consultants or members of some think tank.
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    Re: Suggestions for signatures

    Quote Originally Posted by Nerderello
    50% of all deaths suffered by British armed forces in Gulf War 1 were down to USA armed forces.
    i was wondering what this means. im jst curious
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    I think it means we can't shoot strait, or with all of our tech we cant read the telemetry corectly. or did we not tell the troops that the revolution was over.
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    As far as I can see, it was the French who won the USA their independence.
    Someone hunt him down and slap the doo doo outta him

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    First point (50% losses) it means that the most dangerous place on this planet is in a war where the USA are involved.

    Second point (French and the war of Independence) is what I'm getting from reading an American's set of historical novels (Gore Vidal, novel called "Burr" after a certain vice president).

    What was I trying to say? Well, partly that politicians, who should be trying to solve problems are creating them by the truck load. Partly that the USA has, in recent years, a very poor record in friendly fire incidents (ask the Canadians), a problem that is a very rare occurence in other countries armed forces (we Brits managed one in Gulf war 2). And partly that the French are not a bunch of cowardly cheese eating wine guzzling surrender monkeys (I mean, remember Gulf war 1 when they were racing across the deserts towards Baghdad, only to be ordered back by the supreme commander - Stormin Norman).

    One final point. I don't want anybody to get the impression that I'm some how anti-American. Far from it. During my travels I've met many Americans and have always enjoyed their company and their atitudes. My reaction seems to be very common amongst the peoples of the world. But just as common is a feeling that the American state and its ruling elite behave, at times, like bullys.

    A short tale, if I may. I was in Esfahan (a beautiful city in Iran) a couple of years ago (a month after 911) and was being shown around (as part of a city tour) their war cemetry. Iran lost half a million of its people in the 8 year war against Sadam (that was when the west was friendly towards Sadam). I asked our Iranian guide what he thought about 911 and about Americans in general. He told me that if Bin Ladem were there in Esfahan, he'd tear his heart out with his bare hands (Saide, out guide, was normally a very gentle man). And he said that he had no hatred for Americans, only a dislike for the American state. As he put it, people are just people the world over.

    So, let's drop this subject now, and get on with things Linux.

    have fun

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    All very good points. And it shall be done per the request.
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