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Originally Posted by GNOME_n00b thats another aspect i forgot to mention about. a decent distro needs a decent package installer gui. the supplied system-config-installer(or whatever its called) was terrible beyond ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GNOME_n00b
    thats another aspect i forgot to mention about. a decent distro needs a decent package installer gui. the supplied system-config-installer(or whatever its called) was terrible beyond belief.
    fedora now uses yum, a text based updator. you can update your entire system with the command:
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    su -c 'yum update'
    As for the GUI installer, there is yumex (yum extender: a grafical version of yum), and Fedora core 5 will have Pup (i think that is what it is called).
    I also disagree with your statement, as i prefer the text based one to the GUI, eventhough the graphics are nice, and it is arraged well.

    As for Fedora Java. Well, i installed Sun's JDK 1.5 not to long ago, and that works very well. As for native eclipse. yuck! I have to agree with techimoe on this one. It is pretty unstable, and does not offer all the options that the normal version has. I think i will install the normal version from eclipse, until the native one is a little better.

    I personaly like fedora core overall. As a newbie going into linux, i choose Fedora because I liked the simplicity of the GNOME desktop, and i have found it to be pretty stable so far, but i am not a power user, that requires advanced programs that can reveal instabilities. You should give it a try, and use it if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommaso
    Originally Posted by GNOME_n00b
    thats another aspect i forgot to mention about. a decent distro needs a decent package installer gui. the supplied system-config-installer(or whatever its called) was terrible beyond belief.
    fedora now uses yum, a text based updator.
    did you bother to read this:
    Quote Originally Posted by GNOME_n00b
    perhaps i should have included the small print - "my linux box does not have an internet connection".
    this is another thraed on this forum where others had had the same issue with the lack of decent graphical installer in fedora. the resolution was to download smart separately.


    pup has gone the same way as their current one, so they don't appear to have learnt from their mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNOME_n00b
    did you bother to read this:

    Originally Posted by GNOME_n00b
    perhaps i should have included the small print - "my linux box does not have an internet connection".
    ever hear of yum localinstall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommaso
    ever hear of yum localinstall?
    yes, and its rubbish. hence the need for a package manager thats external to fedora such as smart. if only i can find the sources for rpmdrake or the package manager in yast.

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    Ok, rather then starting a flame war about yum, I will simply say that it is a matter of opinion. Some people like yum, and some don't. Just remeber that linux is about choosing
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    Lets try to stay more on topic, i don't think oosterhouse will benefit from hearing rants and compliments about yum.

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