Brand new novice to Linux...

[cosmicbrat]

Where is the best place to view a Linux system in action in Selkirk Manitoba.. or Winnipeg..?

After all these years, and all this effort and pain and money, I just today finally got this silly W98se running at its very peak.. as fast and good as it gets.. but it's not enough!.. and it sort of feels like "wearing someone else's full diaper"... and now everything about Windows has become boring, and like soggy wet smelly old slippers... and Windows systems seem to hide an inherent evil monster, inside, and all around outside itself.. and growing like a massive cancer.. somewhat like a scorpion sleeping in your boot.. ready to leap out, and strike, and suck ones veins and brains and wallet dry.. and squeeze till what's being squeezed just can't be squeezed any more without causing a crashing de-evolutive process within its victim's core.. then squeeze some more...
The whole Windows after-market peripheral support group, feels like a herd of river leaches stuck to the legs of an unwary victim... Everything about Windows is all about money and the synthetic-power to seize more and more money.. while money spends Life faster than the planet can restore and replace...

Me thinks this changing from the lazy W98 MO, to Linux, is going to take a lot of serious learning and effort.. but from what I've read, Linux seems to be the way of wizards, reality, honesty, and the freeworld...

[deltaflyer]

don't know were you can see linux in action where you are, bu i recommend downloading a livecd, someting like knoppix or mepis, runs from the cd & doesn't touch your hard drive & you can experiment to your hearts content & see linux in action that way,or you could contact a linux user group in your area

andy

[AlexK]

I don't know where one can see it in Winnipeg, but if you have access to broadband internet, you can just download some live-cd which don't need to be installed to the hard drive e.g. Knoppix.

Otherwise, you can order the cd's to be sent to you from either of these sites:
http://www.linuxcd.org/
http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/index.html

I suggest you try out a livecd first to get a taste of linux, then look on distrowatch for some distro you may like to actually install. You could also take the Linux distro chooser test

[googled first]

One place to ask is the local community colleges. I'd be suprised if they don't offer an evening course if you're interested. Check if an openhouse is scheduled.
Or download a live cd as already mentioned. Some live cd's offer an install option. Simply Mepis comes to mind.

edit/ Have you considered contacting the local LUG (linux users group) there appears to be one in Winnipeg.

[oz]

Contact someone here. They should be able to help you:

http://www.linux.org/groups/canada/1...Linux_SIG.html

[bryansmith]

A LUG (Linux User Group) would be your best bet. They can help you get acquainted with Linux in person and they may even have an install night should you choose to install.

Bryan

[cosmicbrat]

Thanks!.. You've all been a super help... and it gives the feel that Linux people are like a realistic community.. and you give a sense of a higher intellect factor than what I found in the Window's arena...

Thanks for all the keen advice.. I am definitely going for the "liveCD" option...


Can an old pentuim-2 run Windows 98se on one HD, and Linux in a slave hd..?
I'm thinking it would be best to wean myself out of windows.. and get into some solid Linux, gradually... and not too soon either!.. for it seems that my little scuffles with microsoft have gotten my IP blocked from their download sites.. and worse!.. After my last visit there, I had no option but to format C...
Sort of made me feel like I had just been keelhauled, and dragged a mile over hot coals and broken glass... I'm sure glad that's all over with.. oh sigh....


So.. hows the bug, virus, and hacker situation, with Linux?..

[AlexK]

Yes it is possible to run linux on older hardware, however don't expect it to be lightning fast with all eyecandy turned on. That being said you can run it with reasonable speed on a lightweight WM such as IceWM or Fluxbox.

As for which distro to use, take a look at DSL, Vector Linux.

Bugs and virus is very small.
"Hacker" as you term it, as long as you don't surf as root and run a firewall, you should be fine.

[cosmicbrat]

I haven't got Linux going yet... The PC I was to do it in, crapped out.. as in R.I.P...

Right now I'm stuck in a bigger grief.. that I just can't find a way through.. even after giving it a good-shot, for the past whole six-years...

I'm sensing that Linux people are a different breed from the norms of the huminite's sub-cultures and synthetic realms... Linux People seem to live in reality, more than they accept the fantasy's of the huminites and the humites.. (which fit accurately, should you run them through spell check)...

Linux folks just might be close to all that's left of humanity..? It even might be an indicator, in itself..?

Seems most of you Linuxites have Strong functioning minds, whilst the rest of the 6-bil can barely calculate 9 times 9 without a serious struggle, and bit of a freak-out, and a couple if escape attempts... Most never formulate a new thought on their own in their whole lifetimes... And should they somehow happen to create a new thought, they now figure their path should forever be perpetually blanketed with fresh palm leaves and rose petals...
You can't get a single word-in through their walls of fear and obstinacy...
What they learned in bible and elementary school is now their god forever..
They know nothing, whilst claiming to know and possess all they need, from here to eternity, because they read it somewhere in a book that took a thousand pages to tell them that "heaven doesn't want assholes"... and they use up their whole lives pretending to be learning that lesson, but never learn it... Their conclusion is obvious...


I told you that, so I could tell you this..
In the Fall, of 1978, I was driving west.. not caring where I end up.. just leisurely driving west, with all my prime things packed in the truck.. with a sports mattress on the boxes, and all 300 pounds of my prime survival gear handy, including full scuba tanks, to explore rivers and lakes on the way... In one river I gots me a real super rush when I got caught in a fast current, and tossed ten feet out of the water sliding along a huge slippery sheet of slate.. almost as if the river spit me out...

..So, I'm driving Canada-One west, late in the night, when there are zero other vehicles for hours at a time, when I can rest my foot on the gas peddle, and coast along leisurely at 30 m's per h, without a care in the world... when I sees two large meteorites cross a huge X in the sky... And I telepaths as hard and far into Space as I can... "Detail to me how alien space craft propulsion systems work, in mindframes I can fathom!"...
I continues with my comfy driving this warm starry late-night highway...
...but things are too active in my mind..? I know not what, but I do know something new is happning in my head...
...moments later I catches a sudden glimpse of three abandoned vehicles along the road side, but not there.. just an image superimposed upon the land... hundreds of bits of useless clothing strewn all around and about the vehicles... car doors are all open, trunks and hoods are all open.. the scene is deserted... they are newer cars than what we have today... About thirty years newer, almost like what we drive today, only a little more compact, and prettier... A quick scan into the illusionary vehicles, gives me the sense that they exodused the cities, and that's where they ran out of gas... I drives a little further, and I see more abandoned vehicles, now on both sides of the road... and a few corpses lying near rifled vehicles... Seems there were battles here, over gas, food, clothing, equipment, and tools, and maybe over females too... Then I saw double twelve-foot tall wire-fences ten-feet apart, all around farmer's crop fields... Seems they were protecting their crops from the hoards of hungry animals...
running between the fences are pairs of extremely vicious german shepards and pitbulls, killers definitely!...

As I drove, my head felt like it was now too-full of something... I pulled over to the gravel, took-up pen and paper, and wrote for three solid hours drawing and describing the workings of a liquid electricity engine...

Watt watched a kettle boil, and invented the steam engine... I saw an X in the sky, and invented the plazma rocket...

It's simple device.. three modifications to laser... It's exhaust is antimatters.. which are collected in an exhaust scrubber, and sold to big industry to power big industry...

"GTOSPC's"... Grow their own software PC's, are grown in a lab from new inert element petroleum plastics, to be worn on the arm as a skin-graft, fed by inerts introduced into the blood... mouse and board is history... 3% alpha does the board... beta does the mouse... Which means that only Linux People could operated these PC's.. which is probably why the world doesn't want me to build it.. because the humites are devolving, and they couldn't ever get to where they could operate such technologies... If they could, they would be dangerous to themselves, and to us...