Pardus Linux

[murat]

Hi all out there!

I am new in the forum and I want to post my first thread about the distro I am using.
As you can understand from the topic of the thread, the distro called Pardus Linux.
Actually, it's at the very beginnig on his way but it's like it's been around for years when you start to use it.
I don't wanna tell about it much here since I think it's against the rules (if it's not, tell me. I can write about it for pages ).
You can click this link to find out about Pardus. And I will be glad to reply all questions about it.

[carlosponti]

i didnt think it was against the rules to praise a distro. you cant just ask us which you should use

[murat]

i didnt think it was against the rules to praise a distro. you cant just ask us which you should use

I got it, thanks and I think that's how it should be.
Anyway, I saw this below your nick and it says "Distribution Slackware, Slax, SimplyMepis, and various others I like to try"
"various others I like to try"... hmmm... how about that ?
ftp://ftp.uludag.org.tr/pub/pardus/k...1.1-alpha2.iso
Try this?
Or before giving it a try, I can explain more about it.

[carlosponti]

right now i have a backlog of distros i am playing with CentOS, Debian, etc i am playing around too much at the moment. but i will bookmark it for future experimentation. is it all in turkish or does it have english availiable?

[techieMoe]

I went reading through the site and I have some little points to pick. These are just constructive criticism, so don't think I'm trying to put down the distro. (If I were I'd write a review on it.)

There's a section that asks the first question I always ask when looking at a new distro, "Why should I use this distro over others?" The list they have is as follows:

... Free Software
It's license do not restrict you from using, distributing or developing Pardus. It's license is designed to guarantee your freedom.

... Bilingual
You can install and use Pardus in two languages (Turkish and English) without a problem. Moreover, people using the Pardus system can choose to use Pardus with an other language diffrent from the installation.

... No Viruses
It won't be a nightmare to surf the Internet. You won't be infected by a virus and won't loose your work. Don't you think it's great too?

Ok. All other major distributions offer this.

... Fast Installation
You'll be ready and working on your system in 30 minutes of installation. After the installation you'll have all needed software (office suite, browser, IM, and so) ready and configured for your needs.

... Complete
You'll have all the needed software by default with Pardus CD.

How do the makers of Pardus Linux know all the software I need? How could they? Broad statements like "oh, you'll have everything you need." Just sound unprofessional to me. My first thoughts are what are they trying to gloss over?

... Easy to Use
It's easy to use Pardus with it's intuitive graphical user interfaces, menus, icons. You don't need to be a computer expert or need to take a course to use Pardus.

"Easy" and "Inuitive" are completely subjective. Just about every distribution makes this claim. This has no place in a "why choose us?" page.

... Open
You can get and change it's source code, evet for developing a new distribution. You can see all the internals by looking at the source code.

... Multi-User
Every one using Pardus can choose to run the system according to his/her needs.

Again, this is a feature of all existing Linux distributions. At the end of the page I feel my question has been left completely unanswered. Why should I choose Pardus over anything else?

[murat]

I went reading through the site and I have some little points to pick. These are just constructive criticism, so don't think I'm trying to put down the distro. (If I were I'd write a review on it.)

There's a section that asks the first question I always ask when looking at a new distro, "Why should I use this distro over others?" The list they have is as follows:



Ok. All other major distributions offer this.



How do the makers of Pardus Linux know all the software I need? How could they? Broad statements like "oh, you'll have everything you need." Just sound unprofessional to me. My first thoughts are what are they trying to gloss over?



"Easy" and "Inuitive" are completely subjective. Just about every distribution makes this claim. This has no place in a "why choose us?" page.



Again, this is a feature of all existing Linux distributions. At the end of the page I feel my question has been left completely unanswered. Why should I choose Pardus over anything else?

Fisrt of all, thank very much for your constructive crticism.
Generally, "why" pages like "Why Pardus" smells like advertisments and this is very normal, I guess. But, there is another link here
which should be looked at.
Here you can find what Pardus comes with or what kind of things is coming along with it. Let me try to explain:

Firtsly and in my opinion the most importantly, a new package system called PiSi (Packages Installed Successfully as Intended) comes with Pardus. I don't wanna list all the things here since you can check it from the official site.

Secondly, COMAR (COnfiguration MAnageR). It helps the installed software operate consistently and flawlessly. Again, check the web site.

Third, YALI (Yet Another Linux İnstaller). This is the most perfect and easiest installer I have ever seen.

And all the other new stuffs coming with Pardus which I don't wanna write here now.

Last thing to say, Pardus is very fast both in processing and booting. For example, from grub screen to login, it's about 16sn which depends on the hardware specifications, of course but let's say according to avarage hardware specifications it will be no problem to see the login screen in 16sn.

Thank you very much for your criticism again and hey!! give it a try

[KenJackson]

I'm not excited about yet another Linux distro either. But that sure is a nice looking website. If they've put even half as much TLC into the product as into the site, it will be very good.

[techieMoe]

Firtsly and in my opinion the most importantly, a new package system called PiSi (Packages Installed Successfully as Intended) comes with Pardus. I don't wanna list all the things here since you can check it from the official site.

Well, I took a look at that part of the site and they list their package manager. My question is are they creating yet another package format or does this tool work with existing formats (RPM/DEB/TGZ)? If it's the former, I'm not interested unless they have some very compelling reasons why their format is superior AND they have a long-term plan to convince the rest of the world to use it.

Secondly, COMAR (COnfiguration MAnageR). It helps the installed software operate consistently and flawlessly. Again, check the web site.

I've read the write-up on this part as well, but I don't understand what they mean by "making software operate consistently and flawlessly"?

Third, YALI (Yet Another Linux İnstaller). This is the most perfect and easiest installer I have ever seen.

It looks like a prettier version of Redhat/Fedora's Anaconda installer (and may very well be based on the same code). I don't see anything new here. My biggest problem with their website is that it's high on style but low on substance. They don't give any real substantive details about their supposed "new" products but have a lot of flashy marketing jargon talking about how they want to make a "widely-used" product. If they want their distro to gain popularity they have to give tangible, superior results in comparison to their peers. I'll see if I can get a copy of it and try it out, but as of right now I don't see anything groundbreaking about Pardus.

[daacosta]

Intriguing... Very intriguing... Pardus is listed in distrowatch but it has no reviews. I liked the list of packages but I tend to agree with TM and would ask the same question: "what sets it apart?" [OK, you could say the same about other distros like Centos which is Red Hat without the tags...]

I will try the live CD...

Do consider adding multi-lingual support to Pardus as bilingual is just not enough in my opinion.

Ah! and welcome to the forums

[cuiq]

I'm gonna have to agree with techiemoe on this one. However, if your aim is to build a distro specifically aimed at the Turkish market then that's what you should stick with. There are plenty of distros created/aimed at a particular country/language...and besides I think the English language market is drowning in new distros everyday. To hit this market you'd have to be a long time staple (Debian, Slackware etc...) or bring something unique to the table.

Just my humble opinion

Peace V