getting rid of init

[eraker]

I thought this article was interesting:

http://enterprise.linux.com/article....23244&from=rss

[techieMoe]

Cool. I look forward to playing with it, but I'm going to wait until it's an official release. One thing that rang particularly clearly for me:

We would like certain daemons, such the HP Linux Printing and Imaging System, to be only started then the associated hardware is actually available. This way users who have the hardware benefit, and users who don't are not penalized.

I find myself turning off CUPS and HPIJS daemons constantly because I don't have a printer on my home workstation. This feature would be greatly welcomed. The general idea of simply not loading something until it's actually needed is a novel (if stupidly simple) idea that you would think someone would have come up with long ago.

[bigtomrodney]

I used init-ng for a day or two, but it was a bit buggy for my configuration. I'm sure it works weel for some but not for mass consumption yet. It only sped up my boot by about six seconds. I'm looking forward to try out Upstart in Edgy. I always preferred stable 'just works' distros but now I'm enjoying trying a few betas. Synaptic and Smart are allowing me to do that easily and relatively safely, though I'm very careful with my server.

The way I see it, if you took a list of problems you had with linux two years back, pretty much everything would be crossed off now. There are the few obvious things though, and for me boot time has always stuck out. This is probably because I have used a laptop most of the time.

[eraker]

I know what you both mean. I'm always looking for ways to improve boot time on a laptop of mine as well. Bluetooth is one example. I don't own anything with Bluetooth, and I'm not ruling it out as something I may eventually have, but I don't really need it to fire up when the system fires up. It would be nice to do a little less customization as far as init stuff is concerned (and maybe more or less customization of the kernel in addition?).

[carlosponti]

neat concept.