So whose gonna install suse 10.2 tomorrow?

[bigtomrodney]

So I'm up and running 100% in 10.2. Feels pretty nice , a little snappier. It's nice to have YaST package manager working again though zypper is only nearly as good as smart or apt. Why didn't they just use that?

Only two things stand out for my upgrade and although neither are SUSEs fault I should mention them.

• Madwifi/Ndiswrapper - I have an atheros chipset in my wireless card. I used to use ndiswrapper in 10.1 but for some reason it wouldn't work. It would detect the card but couldn't initiate it. So I installed madwifi and it works fine but I don't get as strong a signal anymore
• Got all of my multimedia software up and running, though totem although upgraded doesn't want to use Win32 codecs. Maybe it's something I did but mplayer works fine, I'm using the packman libxine and w32-codecs along with everything else.

Neither are openSUSE's fault but just wanted to mention them for anyone considering the upgrade. Oh by the way, that new menu has to go.

[bryansmith]

I seem to share many of the same feelings you do bigtomrodney. Although I have a bcm43xx chipset for my wireless (hooray for support in the kernel!), I had the same problems with the multimedia. Then again, I really don't like totem.

Are you using KDE or Gnome? I liked the gnome menu and although I have never tried the KDE one, I can't stand it already .

Bryan

[hughitt1]

It's nice to have YaST package manager working again though zypper is only nearly as good as smart or apt.

I just read about smart for the first time yesterday, and was getting ready to try it out. Youl should be able to use it in suse as well too, right?

Dependency issues continues to remain one of my biggest issues with linux today (especially for fedora), and from what i've read smart is suppost to do a pretty darn good job avoid conflicts. You think its worth the install?

[bigtomrodney]

...Then again, I really don't like totem.....

Me neither, but it does the job. I used to think Kaffeine was on the way to being the new 'killer' video player for linux, but I find them all just functional. I do like having a player that is well integrated with the environment though.

Are you using KDE or Gnome? I liked the gnome menu and although I have never tried the KDE one, I can't stand it already

Yeah I've been using Gnome for the past couple of months. I have always much preferred KDE, but the last few releases haven't appealed to me much, and the initial XGL/Compiz releases worked much better with Gnome. By the way if you're using Gnome, make sure you disable the earlykdm init script and enable earlygdm. Lokks a bit smoother in my opinion.

I just read about smart for the first time yesterday, and was getting ready to try it out. Youl should be able to use it in suse as well too, right?

Yeah definitely, use the Guru one and take all of the addons. You get a lot of channels by default so there's plenty to choose from. Depedencies can be a big problem, and I hear Fedora did suffer a bit. Smart is the best experience I've had aside from Apt, but to be fair they're nearly identical in daily use. I'm not sure how the smart packages are for 10.2 so far.

One other observation - Middle clicking to close a firefox tab never worked for me in SUSE, though it worked in Ubuntu. It used to paste to that tab but it seems to work well now! One more thing to make life easier.

[bryansmith]

I'm very much like you in that I like to have things integrated well. This makes me wonder how the yast-gtk project is coming along. I actually think it's included with suse 10.2. Mplayer has come along nicely though especially that it's now built with gtk2. Although, it's not a "traditional" gnome app, it still looks okay.

Thanks for the tip. I'm seriously considering a move back to Suse from Ubuntu so any help I can get in convincing me to stay with Suse is always nice.

Bryan

[duffman108]

Personally I'm never using a Novell product again, but it'll be interesting to see what it's got.

Same here.

[hughitt1]

...use the Guru one and take all of the addons...

What do you mean by 'use the guru' one? Not too familiar with how smart works. I've used mostly yum and apt.

[bryansmith]

He means that you should use the smart package available for the guru site. The package can be found here: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-...tem/smart-beta

I would suggest using his yast source so deps can be handled while installing smart (it has a few deps especially if you install the gui). Here is the main page with the yast source: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/index.php

Bryan

[Andromalius]

BryanSmith (or anyone else with this information),
How did you get the bcm43xx working? SuSE 10.2 by default detects the chip in Yast, but I cannot figure out how to pick an access point.

Also, do I still need to install fwcutter-bcm43xx to extract the firmware, or is it included in the kernel as well with the driver? I have googled fwcutter-bcm43xx a few different ways and I can't seem to find a download link, so I assume it's not necessary at this point...

Thanks,
Justin