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  1. 02-01-2007 #1
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    Kernel hackers offer to develop free Linux drivers!

    The hardware drivers issues might slowly fade away as Kernel hackers offer to develop hardware drivers for manufacturers free of charge.

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  2. 02-01-2007 #2
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    Well this is nothing new, since now you could ask a company for specs for a piece of hardware. What is new is that kernel team itself is doing it. I do have one concern. What if some developer has to sign a NDA to look at the spec and the resulting code can only be understood by looking at the spec (thereby needing a NDA). Is that really free or open source software? Sure that is ok for the linux kernel, but what about *bsd, hurd, or someone unknown free kernel of the future. They are still screwed.
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  3. 02-01-2007 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vergil83
    Well this is nothing new, since now you could ask a company for specs for a piece of hardware. What is new is that kernel team itself is doing it. I do have one concern. What if some developer has to sign a NDA to look at the spec and the resulting code can only be understood by looking at the spec (thereby needing a NDA). Is that really free or open source software? Sure that is ok for the linux kernel, but what about *bsd, hurd, or someone unknown free kernel of the future. They are still screwed.

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    As far as I know their's(sadly) only one official kernel hacker agreeing that these modules would be derived from the kernel.
    I was was wondering(and googling) the same thing though.
    Since they mentionned they will include them in the official kernel tree, I assume the will need to be GPL'd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vergil83
    Well this is nothing new, since now you could ask a company for specs for a piece of hardware. What is new is that kernel team itself is doing it. I do have one concern. What if some developer has to sign a NDA to look at the spec and the resulting code can only be understood by looking at the spec (thereby needing a NDA). Is that really free or open source software? Sure that is ok for the linux kernel, but what about *bsd, hurd, or someone unknown free kernel of the future. They are still screwed.

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    I'm not obfuscating, honest, I just really like malbolge...
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  5. 02-02-2007 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by genesus
    I'm not obfuscating, honest, I just really like malbolge...
    It is still easier than Perl
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    Really simple
    Hello World in Malbolge
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    Is the "(=<" at the beginning supposed to show how depressed you'll be after trying to figure it out, or (if you look at it the other way around) the creator of the language with an evil grin, thinking of how much they've made people suffer?
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