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Most likely this post won't get much attention, or if it does, it will be from flamers and linux worshippers, but I still wanted to say this as a genrela ...
- 02-03-2007 #1Just Joined!
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So called "Wonderful world of Linux"
Most likely this post won't get much attention, or if it does, it will be from flamers and linux worshippers, but I still wanted to say this as a genrela feedback.
I've been under the assumption, mainly due to knowing a couple of Linux Brainwashees, that there is a great big Linux community family that is happy and helps people with problems. If there is, I haven't found this family.
I've tried to install linux for many times. The most usual outcome is that I at first have to format my whole windos drive with all it's partitions 'cause the linux install doesn't work, the boot loader doesn't work, both of the above and then the bootloader is unrepairable and I can't get either linux or windows to boot. So my computer that worked perfectly well with just windows is now unusable, until I blank the hard drive and install windows again. Being the sort of trusting and exploring person I am, I want to believe that there is the wonderland of linux that has brainwashed so many nerds and other people alike and seemingly made them free of worries. So I try to install linux again and again until I get it done and the system boots to both operating systems (more or less as mentioned further below). Then the linux install is usually due to a whole lot of problems that make it unusable. So I try to search help from that big linux family that everyone tells me is there. But neither from IRC or Forums I never find anyone with answers, or at most thei make witty comments like "don't be such a noob" or something else unfunny like that.
So let's fast forward to present day. I bought a new system and of course wanted to try and install linux on it. I went with suse 'cause I've had the most luck with it (here's the point where all those ah so intelligent and helpfull community people
point out that "you should have used ubuntu/kubuntu/redhat/'some nameless distro no one has ever heard off' and not that piece of ****, or if they're suse people they'll say "you're just so noob that you don't know how to do things right"... I'll get to that later) and because I've found it best to use with my limited experience. So after trying for couple of days to get it to even recognize my DVD drive I was forced to buy IDE2USB converter (and that seems to be the only good thing to come out from this) and I got to install it... of course after a couple of installs and formatting the whole hard drive. Now I had a "working" linux installation (meaning strainght from install, nothing done to it to make it actually usable) I started to try and do the basic things, like booting it for example. It seems that the only way to get it to boot is to boot from the install DVD, abort the install, load a couple of kernel modules and then boot from hard drive. This is needed for the kernel to actually find itself from the HD. Then the another basic thing, graphics card drivers. Apperently an impossible task in linux (or atleast SUSE), since getting the drivers installed is not enough, getting to configure my display, that's the hard part. It seems that Linux thinks of itself being so perfect that even the hint of dissatisfaction with it's recommended settings (wanting to change display settings) makes it to lock down and force me to boot (with the help of the DVD of course).
Now I've tried asking from this "great community" through IRC and Forums, but no one is willing to help. Now I'm willing to take the next step and try another distro, but if the problems continue (and I'm quite confident that they will), I'm not going to waste my time anymore with trying to install Linux on my computer (at least before I get a laptop, which should pose a lot less problems for the install).
So here's my small opinnion that doesn't affect anyone.
When you have an operating system that is this complex and unnecessarily hard (or impossible) to get to work and doesn't do that without 10 years of MIT behind you or a sacrifice to Voodoo Gods versus an operating system that installs painlessly, works (very much most of the time) effectively and without pain and can be used without having a weird looking hat in your possession, to me it's quite clea which one is the better operating system.
I'm not a windows fanboy. It has it's bad sides like any other thing, but the truth is that those bad sides are far outweighted by it's good sides.
Now despite all of the above I'm not gonna abandone the unix completely. I have hopes that if/when I get my solaris discs I have better luck with it than Linux, but I don't see any way in the near future that there would be an operating system that would answer to all my needs and leave me no need to use Windows XP any further.
And now, let the flames light this topic.
- 02-03-2007 #2forum.guy
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Okay, this thread appears to be more an effort at trolling rather than a request for help, so it will be locked to prevent any flaming.
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