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Old 01-09-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Debian: Week #2

Hi all I have been looking for a Debian forumn to post my trials and tribulations of migrating to debian and linux for the first time.

So far so good.

I now dual boot Debian and Win Xp Pro but for the most part have been able to stick with Debian for almost everything.

I have modified my desktop to my liking thanks to www.kde-look.org with apps such as superkaramba and others.

apt-get install... seems to have made getting new packages relatively easy.

Things on my todo list are:

1) finally install java runtime...I have read multiple HOWTOs and still cannot get it to work even though I have learned TONS while trying: symbolic links, how to make a deb package from a .bin file... when I type java --version I get the reply that the command is not known...I added the needed lines to the bash file I think properly...any links or help would be appreciated

2) when I first installed debian, after shutdown, it powered down properly, then later I had to physically hit the power off button on my tower, now, LOL, I have to actually hold the power button for sometime to get it to shut down...I have not done much research into why this is the case or how to fix it yet.

That is about it. I have had great fun and a great learning experience so far. Install my nvdia driver replacing the stock 'nv' that debian comes with worked out well.

Just wanted to start posting on a debian board so I could get help time to time and read up on what is going on.

Thanks and any help is appreciated.
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For having to hold down your power button, most ATX cases require you hold down the power button for four seconds before it cuts power.

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Ah is that operating specific?

Windows shuts off by itself

And I swear *I think* Debian did to for a while dunno.

Thanks for the reply though.
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try this modeprobe apm

and then shut down
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Quote:
try this modeprobe apm
...he meant modprobe.

Ow1n: The holding down the power button thing is for any operating system running on an ATX box. When you shut it down, and the operating system tells the computer to shut off power, it is immediate, like when you were shutting down with Windows. The four second rule only applies to when you manually turn it off. I don't know why debian isn't turning it off automatically, (mine does,) but try dwm's suggestion.

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Going to google for modprobe have not run across that as of yet.

Anyone wanna give an explanation if ya have the time?
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Modprobe is the tool linux uses to load modules into the kernel.

For example, we'll say that we have a module called APM (Advanced Power Management) that we want to load because it has features we would like to use. The module by itself is useless to us, the kernel has no way of interacting with the functions in the module. That is where modprobe comes in handy. By typing
Code:
modprobe apm
at the command prompt, it loads the module into the kernel, making those features available to the kernel.

If you ever get into compiling your own kernel, you will find a lot of parts of the kernel can be built in, left out completely, or if you aren't sure you will ever use a certain kernel feature, be built as a module. By allowing something to be built as a module, it doesn't increase the kernel size or load time, but at the same time allows you to modprobe <module> and have that functionality that wasn't built in.

Hope that clears some of the fog :)

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When I type modprobe at the command line with any argument, it says command not found.

Is there a debian package which contains this command?

I really appreciate your previous explanation, and yes it did clear alot up thanks.
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Well I fixed it probably the wrong way but exploring is why I installed Debian:

First I did apt-get install apmd, then I went to /boot, config file and took out the # from CONFIG_AOM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF=y

All seems to work

Thanks PeasleeR for your help

P.S. Can you explain how I fixed it or if I might have done something wrong?
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Sometimes I can come up with a decent explanation, sometimes all I can say is "supermagically." I don't know what you did wrong or right, but kudos for fixing it :D

And it was my pleasure to help.

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