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    I reinstalled one more time. I wasn't doing well with getting the desktop to integrate with the x-windows. I had to log out of KDE into x-windows, then out of x-windows into the terminal. then log out , and finally ctrl-alt-delete.

    Now KDE is fully installed with all the bells and whistles and appears to be fully integrated with x-windows. For some unknown reason my video resolution improved, but I'm not complaining.

    My latest problem is that Debian and my modem don't like each other.

    It's not a win modem. It is a US Robotics controller modem that is famous for installing on COM5, or as Linux people say, ttyS4.

    Does anybody know about ttyS4 and Debian?

    Debian can tell that a pci serial device exists, and gives the memory location. My modem was set up automatically by Mandrake 8.1, SUSE 9.2, and even the 50 megabytes of DSL, but apparently Debian can't deal with ttyS4.

    I got the following response from when trying to dial my default provider.

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    In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: 'unrecognized option' /dev/ttyS4


    I have done a fair amount of internet searching, and discovered that other people have had problems with this modem. They talked a lot about setserial. There was never a clear solution provided. The comments all seem to be earlier than 2003. That might indicate newer drivers have solved the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by FyberOptyx
    Also, the installation that you did off these disks will be quite old as Debian are very slow at releasing new distros. So if you want to get newer, up to date software options in your package manager (like synaptic), you will have to change the /etc/apt/sources.list file or change the repositories in synaptic. Change from woody (or stable) to sarge or testing..
    Maybe I should order the Progeny Debian 2 disks?

    All I can think of is newer interfaces/drivers, or maybe learning more about setserial.

    Does anybody know about ttyS4 and Debian?

    Jack


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    Quote Originally Posted by stewjack
    It is a US Robotics controller modem that is famous for installing on COM5, or as Linux people say, ttyS4.
    What does this mean? Are there no jumpers or dip switches on the board to map it to ttyS0-ttyS3?

    If all else fails, you might try this. It works well for me.
    /IMHO
    //got nothin'
    ///this use to look better

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyberOptyx
    Yes, I did look there, but other than upgrading setserial, ppp, and wvdial - the other solutions were either from from earlier versions of Debian or were not understandable by me.

    I would need to understand how to import from floppies or cd's to upgrade to newer versions. Apt-get did not recognise a simple cd with a deb package of wvdial. Obviously, apt-get has requirements I don't understand

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    I have not had a modem for quite a few years so I would not be the best person to help you setting up your modem.
    In my honest opinion, with respect. It might be better for you to try one of the more friendly Linux distros and come back to Debian when you are more comfortable.
    The others like, Mandrake, Fedora etc. would probably set up your modem and anything else for you automaticallly, and they will be more current.
    You can get Debian more up to date but I isn't recommended over a modem
    Sorry I can't help other than the link provided, maybe other modem users can offer a hand or search some forums.

    [edit]There must be some kind of tool for setting up modems, is there one that comes with KDE or GNOME ?[/edit]

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyberOptyx
    I have not had a modem for quite a few years so I would not be the best person to help you setting up your modem.
    In my honest opinion, with respect. It might be better for you to try one of the more friendly Linux distros and come back to Debian when you are more comfortable.
    I guess that is what I will do.

    Quote Originally Posted by FyberOptyx
    [edit]There must be some kind of tool for setting up modems, is there one that comes with KDE or GNOME ?[/edit]

    According to the info that came with the modem, the driver is part of the 2.4 and higher Linux Kernel. Linux Plug and Play must be activated.

    I think that the problem is with the older ppp and wvdial programs not being able to access any COM higher than COM4. When I manually entered ttyS4 into wvdial, and attempted to dial "provider," wvdial answered: "ttyS4 is an unrecognised option." I thinkI will wait for Sarge before reloading Debian.

    Jack

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    if you can point me to the link of your modem or tell me the model i can have a look around

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyberOptyx
    if you can point me to the link of your modem or tell me the model i can have a look around
    Thanks for the offer, but I already deleated my Debian partition. I learned some more about Linux. If Sarge comes out in less thn a year, I will probably check it out. The SUSE commercial version guarentees 5 years of upgrade support and costs $100. I think I would go for the $200 WIN XP first, but maybe I can live with 9.1 and other buggy versions of SUSE for a while. I gave myself a year to decide.

    Jack

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    [quote="stewjack"]Recap

    I reinstalled one more time. I wasn't doing well with getting the desktop to integrate with the x-windows. I had to log out of KDE into x-windows, then out of x-windows into the terminal. then log out , and finally ctrl-alt-delete.

    Now KDE is fully installed with all the bells and whistles and appears to be fully integrated with x-windows. For some unknown reason my video resolution improved, but I'm not complaining.

    My latest problem is that Debian and my modem don't like each other.

    It's not a win modem. It is a US Robotics controller modem that is famous for installing on COM5, or as Linux people say, ttyS4.

    Does anybody know about ttyS4 and Debian?


    okay, here's a try, if late...

    cd to /dev

    ls -aFl ttyS4 modem

    if a description of ttyS4 comes up, then your half way there.
    ln -s ttyS4 modem
    (which does a link from ttyS4 to your /dev/modem)

    if nothing comes up for ttyS4, then
    MAKEDEV ttyS4

    hopefully it will create the ttyS4 device, then
    ln -s ttyS4 modem

    then run pppconfig or kppp or ???

    with hope it will auto detect it (although you may have to change the ownership of /dev/ttyS4 and/or /dev/modem


    Maybe I should order the Progeny Debian 2 disks?


    I am typing this on a progeny debian system and it is running the 2.6 kernel which found my modem (another USR com5 modem) as
    ttyS14
    not ttyS4 (they changed it all in the 2.6 kernel for ?? reason)

    I used the pppconfig command to set it up and it auto detected it as ttyS14

    check out my post on http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/pos...06.html#140706
    for the rest of the gnome setup. I'm trying Gnome for the first time in a consistent manner, and i find i like it because of the minimalistic-ness of it (but then i know alot of the command-line commands). it is very quick.

    enjoy, hope it helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by penguinwarrior

    I am typing this on a progeny debian system and it is running the 2.6 kernel which found my modem (another USR com5 modem) as
    ttyS14 - not ttyS4
    (they changed it all in the 2.6 kernel for ?? reason)
    Thank you for your detailed reply. Regretably I have already removed Debian and installed a SUSE 9.1 distribution. It also finds "our" modem and installs it as ttyS14. I also tested DamSmallLinux - aka DSL. It required me to manually imput ttyS4 before I could complete the modem set up, but at least it accepts ttyS4.

    I may come back to Debian since SUSE seems to require a yearly upgrade unless you pay $100 for the commercial release. I might think about $50 but not $100. It seems to me that you "pay" for these free releases by debugging them. SUSE 9.1 has a known bug that tends to crash your Windows OS when it formats a Linux partition.

    Jack

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