Newbie: XWin install problem - Can't find screen

[gmoody]

Hi Folks,

Apologies, newbie here.

I am trying to install Debian-Sarge onto a DEC Alpha Miata-class PWS-500a and I am having issues with the XWindows install.

I'm using a Matrox Melennium video card, and I've tried both the mga and vga drivers at various resolutions and scan rates - no joy. The diagnostic output correctly identifies the card, and the mga driver states that this card is supported, but then states that it can find no screens (!). It then disables the X server and dumps me to the console.

Is ther some magic handshake I've missed, or am I just not holding my mouth right?

Frustrated,

Gary

[Nerderello]

can you paste into us a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/XF86Config file. Specifically the bits with the Section "monitor" , Section "device", and Section "screen" .

Thanks

Nerderello

[gmoody]

Well, I've tried everything I can think of, and everything I could find on the net. I've installed discover and mdetect. I've re-installed X and reconfigured until my fingers are sore and I'm about to break something!

The card is a Matrox Millennium I (4MB) and the screen is an HP L1702. I've tried both the MGA and VGA drivers with every possible configuration permutation...no joy.

Can anyone tell me what is going wrong?

Attached is the log file:
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XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14 20050601085002 root@goedel.debian.org)
Release Date: 15 August 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.29goedel alpha [ELF]
Build Date: 01 June 2005

This version of XFree86 has been extensively modified by the Debian
Project, and is not supported by the XFree86 Project, Inc., in any
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Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.27-2-generic (tretkowski@bastille) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Sun May 29 18:40:58 UTC 2005
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Fri Sep 16 02:04:51 2005
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "HP L1702"
(**) | |-->Device "Matrox Millennium"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:03:0: chip 1011,0019 card 0000,0000 rev 30 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1095,0646 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,0484 card 0000,0000 rev 43 class 00,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0c:0: chip 102b,0519 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 1011,0021 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 01:0a:0: chip 104c,8025 card 104c,8025 rev 01 class 0c,00,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:20:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0004 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x09800000 - 0x098fffff (0x100000) MX[B]
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,0), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x100000000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x100000000) MX[B]
(--) PCI: (0:7:0) Intel Corp. 82378IB [SIO ISA Bridge] rev 67
(--) PCI: (0:12:0) Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2064W [Millennium] rev 1, Mem @ 0x09950000/14, 0x09000000/23, BIOS @ 0x09940000/16
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x100000000) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0x09800000 - 0x09803fff (0x4000) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x09804000 - 0x098047ff (0x800) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x09954000 - 0x0995407f (0x80) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x09940000 - 0x0994ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
[4] -1 0 0x09000000 - 0x097fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B)
[5] -1 0 0x09950000 - 0x09953fff (0x4000) MX[B](B)
[6] -1 0 0x00008080 - 0x0000808f (0x10) IX[B]
[7] -1 0 0x00008000 - 0x0000807f (0x80) IX[B]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
[0] -1 0 0x09800000 - 0x09803fff (0x4000) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x09804000 - 0x098047ff (0x800) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x09954000 - 0x0995407f (0x80) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x09940000 - 0x0994ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
[4] -1 0 0x09000000 - 0x097fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B)
[5] -1 0 0x09950000 - 0x09953fff (0x4000) MX[B](B)
[6] -1 0 0x00008080 - 0x0000808f (0x10) IX[B]
[7] -1 0 0x00008000 - 0x0000807f (0x80) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
[0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) All system resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x09800000 - 0x09803fff (0x4000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x09804000 - 0x098047ff (0x800) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x09954000 - 0x0995407f (0x80) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x09940000 - 0x0994ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
[7] -1 0 0x09000000 - 0x097fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0x09950000 - 0x09953fff (0x4000) MX[B](B)
[9] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x00008080 - 0x0000808f (0x10) IX[B]
[12] -1 0 0x00008000 - 0x0000807f (0x80) IX[B]
(II) LoadModule: "vga"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vga_drv.o
(II) Module vga: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 4.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.4
(II) VGA: Generic VGA driver (version 4.0) for chipsets: generic
(WW) VGA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:12:0) found
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

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This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".
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[burnit]

It seems that you BusID option in the screen section is wrong...

your log file show your PCI devices:

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:03:0: chip 1011,0019 card 0000,0000 rev 30 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1095,0646 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,0484 card 0000,0000 rev 43 class 00,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0c:0: chip 102b,0519 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 1011,0021 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 01:0a:0: chip 104c,8025 card 104c,8025 rev 01 class 0c,00,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan

but you have specified the address 0:12:0... infact:

WW) VGA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:12:0) found

[spdf]

Can you give us a paste of 'lspci -v', and your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

[gmoody]

Hmmm... In that I didn't input the BUS ID, it's a little puzzling why it chose THAT one.

Okay, the situation now is:

Rather than mess with the existing Debian install, about which I know precious little, I tried another distro, Suse 8.1 for Alpha, which installed and came up with no problem. X works like a champ first time.

However, I would still prefer Debian since the Alpha is still actively supported on this distro. Suse 8.1 is the last published version for Alpha, and their support for Alpha has been discontinued. They will not even publish security patches for this 8.1 version. Apparently, it was ported for their internal use to keep some Alpha hardware they had running.

So...Could I copy the conf files from this install to a Debian install and have it work? What files would I need to copy, and from where and to where ?

Sorry guys...like I stated above...newbie. I am learning, but not as fast as I need to...

Thanks for all your help! It is sincerely appreciated!

[gmoody]

(--) PCI: (0:12:0) Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2064W [Millennium] rev 1, Mem @ 0x09950000/14, 0x09000000/23, BIOS @ 0x09940000/16

Hmmm... I re-read Burnit's reply. I didn't specify the BUS ID during the install process. This was read during a probe of the hardware, per the line quoted above.

Why would the probe identify the PCI devices, but not list the BUS ID for the Matrox Millennium 2064, and then identify, through a hardware probe, the correct Matrox card with a BUS ID that was not listed in the PCI devices?

My head hurts...