kernel problems???

**mindblast** · 12-06-2005

I've installed debian 3.1 and i saw that on reboot appear some kernel errors about kernel modules. The problem is that the write is running to fast and i can't see what is writing... The problem is that my debian works fine... I want to know if i should be worryed about those errors. The problem is that they appeared when i've instaled, at first reboot, before choosing packages (net install). I think is saying something about my video card. Write something about i810.

**Gnux** · 12-06-2005

I've got such a prob too I found out the clue but I am not on the machine currently.
I could explain the reason: on a 2.6 kernel lkm can be loaded with their dependencies (modprobe was in part rewritten and u found it in modules-init-tools and no more in modutils).
So some dependencies can't be found sometimes but the sys still works fine. I wrote some aliases to solve that problem.
I found the solution in a book written by Raphaël Herzog. Will try to find this and I suppose u got nothing in the dmesg output about that strange failure (me i got nothing that's why it was difficult at first).
Could u paste here what u got when it boots (need a good memory). Maybe a google search. This problem sticks me during a long time however...
PS:have u tried update-modules?

**eerok** · 12-06-2005

Originally Posted by mindblast

on reboot appear some kernel errors about kernel modules. The problem is that the write is running to fast and i can't see what is writing

<Shift><PageUp> will allow you to scroll up to read the boot messages.

**mindblast** · 12-06-2005

No... I can't memorize that. I told you... Is going too fast... I memorized only module, failure, i810.

Shift+PageUp dosen't work. Is only get up with a definied number of lines and i'm not reaching those messages. 10x. I only want to know if is something bad or i'm the only one who get those messages, butt looks that i'm not... Can you remember the name of that book?

**Gnux** · 12-06-2005

Yes but I'm not sure u could read it (written in french and not translate afaik but if u know french and wants to translate it sure that the writer will be happy to help u in achieving such a goal

)
Here is a link: http://www.eyrolles.com/Informatique...vre-debian.php
And the first cover:

It's a real good book and when I found the solution of the aliases in it I bought it to read it

PS: I'm not at home and my brother got the book (he uses mainly debian while I'm using mainly freebsd...happy trolls

)

**mindblast** · 12-06-2005

No... Thanx anyway... I only know bonjour and omlette du fromage in french...

thanx anyway.

**onlinebacon** · 12-06-2005

Then do a google search for a Debian book then

I would also think, that if it is working, fully, it should be fine

**antidrugue** · 12-06-2005

Originally Posted by mindblast

I've installed debian 3.1 and i saw that on reboot appear some kernel errors about kernel modules. The problem is that the write is running to fast and i can't see what is writing... The problem is that my debian works fine... I want to know if i should be worryed about those errors. The problem is that they appeared when i've instaled, at first reboot, before choosing packages (net install). I think is saying something about my video card. Write something about i810.

Normally you really shoudn't worry about those, unless your system is not functionning properly.

It is perfectly normal when using a stock kernel (one that is standard with the distribution) that many modules will fail to insert on your machine.

The stock kernel is build for maximum compatibility, therefore it uses pretty much all the modules avalaible, so many will not succeed to insert on your machine.

You may see something like this:

Code:

hw_random&#58; RNG not detected
modprobe&#58; FATAL&#58; Error inserting hw_random &#40;/lib/modules/2.6.5-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/hw_random.ko&#41;&#58; Not such device

     hw_random&#58; can't be loaded
missing kernel or user mode driver hw_random

which really you shouldn't care about. Your motherboard just doesn't have a hardware random number generator, in that case.
You can solve that by compiling your own kernel and choosing not to load that module.

Or maybe something like that:

Code:

null symbol found

which is related to a misconfiguration of the keyboard. You can solve it by typing:

Code:

dpkg-reconfigure console-data

as root.

Just type

Code:

dmesg | less

or

Code:

cat /var/log/kern.log | less

and you'll have a good idea of the boot messages.

**mindblast** · 12-07-2005

8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.2 (Mar 22, 2004)
uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v1.1
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x1001
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x1001
i810_rng: RNG not detected
hw_random: RNG not detected

this is the problem... Now, what RNG mean?

**antidrugue** · 12-07-2005

RNG: Random Number Generator

I discuss it in my previous post.

Really, do not care about this RNG, it doesn't matter if the insertion of this module fails.

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