Do not want a system colapse

[cyclister]

How do I prevent my system to "breakdown" or colapse in a couple of month?
In some way you can speel it "how to" configure your system to prevent such actions, have heard about umount should I do that or?

What can cause grub 17 error like a lightning bolt from a blue sky, have had these not often but sometimes now, so I want to change system and do it like more properly this time.

Ok learing to setup are quite nice but after the fithy eleven'th time it's not so fun any more

[Vergil83]

I don't quite understand the question....

[Kojak]

Neither me...

[cyclister]

What can get a system to get a grub 17 error in boot up?

Didnt do anything special the day after the system told me grub error 17 that was very odd.Cant put my question better today I run like more know and I think better distros, ubuntu its always something with it I cant really put my finger on what it is.

[devils casper]

hi cyclister !!!

What can get a system to get a grub 17 error in boot up?

this is a detail of all GRUB errors....

http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html

Cant put my question better today I run like more know and I think better distros, ubuntu its always something with it I cant really put my finger on what it is.

??????????

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[DThor]

Basically that error means grub finds the partition, but it can't recognize the format.

Uninstallation
Grub Error 17 - that was nice. Uninstall Ubuntu and it takes the Master Boot record with it. Google ‘Error 17′ and nearly every occurrence is Linux related. If you haven’t seen this little wonder, here’s what happens: press power switch on machine, 3 words appear; ‘Grub Error 17′. The machine goes no further than that. Error 17 = reformat for most of us, me included. Nice. It was when this happened that I remembered something - Ubuntu did this to me before. I had installed it fully hoping that the full version + a wired connection would help me get drivers for the FD7010 card I have. It didn’t, so I restored the machine - and got the same grub error. That’s twice I have uninstalled Ubuntu and twice my HD has been rendered unbootable. There will not be a third time. So if you are pondering this, go get a copy of the Ultimate Boot CD so that the MBR can be repaired. Don’t wait for the uninstall - just get it now

Snagged that from elsewhere. Might be useful. I guess some people expect ubuntu to install without touching the MBR, but that seems sort of ridiculous to me. Anyway, see if this info helps. You also might have a bad disk.

DT

[cyclister]

That Ultimate boot cd sounds nice might need it any way.
But hey I tought that the installation part of ubuntu jerked in MBR with out my help

DThor So what do you suggest me to do next time I install ubuntu might in debian too, with MBR?

Devil_casper yeah its something with it that dont feel nice cant exact put my finger on that part?

[devils casper]

Devil_casper yeah its something with it that dont feel nice cant exact put my finger on that part?

well !! Boot Loader (GRUB) should be installed in the Master Boot Record (MBR) of primary master disk.... this is default setting for all installers... dont change anything in Boot Looder section during installation... Ubuntu or any other distro....

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[cyclister]

Ok but my grub have died like at least one time strange, its quite new hdd I guess.
Can someone mess with my grub from "outside"?

How do I check if my hdd are ok?

[devils casper]

hi cyclister !!

Grub get corrupted when you FIX other OS...
most people get GRUB problems when they FIX windows after getting errors/crash there.. re-installing windows or after Norton/TuneUp Package updates...

GRUB re-install is very easy... just three steps.... and you can get GRUB back...

How do I check if my hdd are ok?

well !! if everything is working fine.. it means your HardDisk is ok... there are lot of commads or packages which take care of HardDisk....
$ hdparm -I /dev/hda
it gives yor details of HardDisk....