konqueror and mounting

[kapat]

I dont't think this is a debian specific question but since I use debian (testing/unstable), I am posting it here.

1. Using konqueror (3.5.5) I can right click and mount cdrom but when I try to do that from konsole using:

mount /dev/hdc

I get the following error:

mount: only root can do that

Of course, I can mount using "sudo mount /dev/hdc" but how do I give mounting access to users? The /etc/fstab file has this entry..

/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0

2. I have a dvd data disk, which I could not mount from konqueror. The following command didnot work from konsole either:

sudo mount /dev/hdc

but specifying the filesystem worked:

sudo mount -t udf /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0

Why could it not recognize udf filesystem automatically? Is there some set up problem that I am overlooking? Thanks for your insights in advance.

[jonantice]

On question 1.
If you don't specify uid of a certain user to mount then use the option users (instead of user) so that any user can mount. That should fix your problem.
I should also tell you there is a package pmount

which permits normal users to mount removable devices without a matching /etc/fstab entry.

[kapat]

thanks jonantice, that helps.
so does that mean konqueror's kioslave uses pmount for hotpluggable device mounting?

anyone on Question 2?
updated /etc/fstab looks like

/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 users,noauto 0 0

for a data dvd, the error:
~$ mount /media/cdrom0
mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
missing codepage or other error
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
dmesg | tail or so

~$ dmesg | tail
[snip]
Unable to identify CD-ROM format.

But,
~$ sudo mount -t udf /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0
works. As Jonantice suggested, I tried pmount:

~$ pmount -t udf /dev/hdc cdrom0
Warning: device /dev/hdc is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored
mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
missing codepage or other error
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
dmesg | tail or so

~$ dmesg | tail
[snip]
Unable to identify CD-ROM format.

Any idea?

[jonantice]

As far as konqueror is concerned I don't think it uses pmount. I'm pretty sure it uses it's own thing. I think your problem is shared by others ever since kde abstracted media:/ and system:/ (You will notice that when kde automounts something it is not under /media but media:/, which I don't even know if it is part of the filesystem) I really don't know if this is your problem but it could be. I don't know why your dvd would not mount automatically maybe try /dev/dvd instead of /dev/hdc. (/dev/dvd is usually just a link to some other /dev/*)