synaptic/updates YAY GO LINUX HOW FUN

[bojo]

hello,

as you may have geussed from the title linux as gone and killed itself.

synaptic (debian package thing) has updated my kernel, and as such made it dissapear from GRUB.

god knows how to make it come back.

i also noticed before it shutdown, it removed half of my programs, or changed them...

*Sigh* wasn't linux meant to be more stable than windows?, i had to install debian like 3 times to begin with, because it just died, for no reason.

shame, i really really like this AGNULA idea....

[TruthSeeker]

First of all, you'll probably get much friendlier replies on this forum if you don't start by insulting Linux. Whatever problems Debian has, dying for no reason is definitely not one of them. It only dies if you kill it.

What branch of Debian are you using -- stable (Sarge), testing (Etch) or unstable (sid)? I'm a bit surprised that it even tried to update the kernel, as Debian's official kernel packages have been quite outdated in my experience.

So from what you say it sounds like the grub configuration was hosed. Probably you'll be able to type the kernel command line manually into GRUB, then fix the config file once booted. If you can't do that, you could boot up a live CD and fix the file from there.

Post your partition scheme and kernel version, and I'll help you get the right kernel command for GRUB.

[bojo]

i wasnt insulting linux


im using demudi, which i have throughly enjoyed, its quite brilliant.


from what ive discovered, the synaptic package manager, deleted the kernel, but did not replace it.

at least this is what the linux people have been telling me, after lots of reboots into grub etc.

it also reset the splashimage on grub (which is annoying because it doesnt display at all) and pretti much blinds me in grub.

i thought letting this thing update itself wouldve been the safe thing to do. apparently not.

so it looks like i have to go download a live cd then.... yay, as much as you guys would like to blame me, i didnt do this stuff. i did not touch anything, i didnt try to install new packages (from .debs). i just told it to "smart" update as there were some new versions of programs.

partitions are

(hd0,0) = /boot
(hd0,1) = winxp x64
(hd0,2) = swap
(hd0,3) = does not exist for sum reason
(hd0,4) = linux
(hd0,5) = NTFS formmatted drive

[bojo]

well it seems i was right.

i re-installed demudi/debian again.

the kernel was gone, i can see it through grub and inside the OS now, even managed to boot it through GRUB's command options.

Im not sure what to do about synaptic (apt) however.

it seems that many packages force remove the kernel!!!.

even updating XMMS, requires the kernel to go away, without any replacement.

Rather annoying, im stuck with this software i have (most is quite outdated now, i see bugs that i know will be fixed but i cannot update), because of this package managers odd behaviours.

What should i do linux gurus?

[bigtomrodney]

DeMuDi is based on Ubuntu. It might be as easy to install Ubuntu and install the packages you need such as JACK, Hydrogen, Audacity etc etc. It sounds like there are some serious problems with the Agnula repositories or you are adding other Deb repositories which are causing problems. It's also very odd that the kernel is being removed without being replaced. In fact usually a new kernel won't even remove the old one.

Ubuntu is very straightforward to get set up, probably be done and dusted inside 20 minutes. Just make notes of the applications you want to use so you can install them in Ubuntu.

Also can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list please?

[bojo]

mm ive ran ubuntu before, but got rid of it as i had no reason to run linux back then (much like back when i got FC2).

the thing is with the apps, im not sure exactly what i want. i just play around in demudi until i find the effect im looking for.

I know i want JACK, xmms, hydrogen, and then alot of synthesizers, EQs, (LAPSDA?) and keyboards etc. Don't have any midi stuff so i like to emulate that with the keyboard itself. Ohh and wave editors.

would be good if there was a decent list of all this ( i recall seeing it once upon a time).

ill post the repositories from when i boot into linux.

from memory, first run was the "stable" pen, didnt work, servers down, so i changed to the "demudi" one.

however before i used the debian official "stable" pen, and it still wanted to remove my kernel. Are applications in linux really that kernel specific?

also, if i used ubuntu, wouldn't i have to compile the kernel myself, (the low latency audio patch), which doesn't sound to fun considering my very very recent linux experience


PS as much of a linux noob i am, ive had fedora core 2, gentoo, ubuntu and now demudi running, so i've been around linux abit, and i know how much it dislikes tinkering, that was why i thought i was being good this time, and leaving it to its own devices, didnt that bite me in the ass