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I use Suse 9.1 Personal with KDE, but downloaded blackbox from the original Suse update mirror. When I start blackbox (startx blackbox) the menus are so big that I'm unable ...
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    Crazy, huge menus....help!



    I use Suse 9.1 Personal with KDE, but downloaded blackbox from the original Suse update mirror.
    When I start blackbox (startx blackbox) the menus are so big that I'm unable to use it, they won't fit in to the screen. The font size is small but the "box" surrounding every item on the menu is terrebly big...what's the problem?
    What can i do?

    I have the same problem with XMMS in KDE, are they related?
    All other programs, and everyhting else in KDE looks just fine...
    help.

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    What resolution are you using?

    You would normally pick your WM/DE through a utility like slack's xwmconfig

    Or just edit your ~/.xinitrc

    Change your current WM to "exec blackbox" and blackbox should start.

    Or do you want blackbox to be KDE's WM?
    --monkey

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    my problem is not that it won't start.
    I start linux in level 3 so that I can chose desktop after i have logged in.

    The problem is the "cosmetics" of the blackbox desktop, and with XMMS inside KDE. (I don't know if those problems has anything to do with eachother, but it looks similar.)

    Maybe the WM has something to do with it, but I don't know enouch about it, but if some one do, please tell me...

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    What do you mean by "the problem is the "cosmetics" of the blackbox desktop"

    If you mean buttons, scrollbars, etc, that is not blackbox. It doesn't have any GUI elements.

    What blackbox does is manage windows, and have a title bar, and a border around the window.

    Try running blackbox by itself, not the WM of KDE, and you'll understand what I mean.

    If its the buttons/scrollbards/etc.. then you'll want to change KDE settings.

    If it's the windows titlebar text that's too big, try a different blackbox theme.

    If you simply "startx" (with no arguments) then from KDE go into settings, and change the WM to blackbox (KDE's control panel thingy :P ) Does it still act the same?

    The problem could be is it reads a different config when you "startx blackbox" and causing it to have a different resolution.
    --monkey

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    forgive me for knowing nothing but what is the difference between a WM and a desktop?

    Is blackbox both a WM and a desktop?

    What is it that I start with "startx blackbox"? I get a simple user inteface, but it's to big, every item on the menu is like 2' on my 14' screen...and the "start bar" (windows language) in that size as well..but as I said, the font size is small...

    KDE is my default desktop so that is what starts when I run "startx" only, but could I start KDE with blackbox as my WM?

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    Short answer: a Desktop Environment (DE) includes a desktop (icons/wallpapers) toolbars, "start menu", window manager, command buttons (gui elements etc)

    While a Window Manager (WM) basically manages windows. KDE comes with its own and several other WM's that you can use. Blackbox is a WM so you can use it as KDE's WM.

    I'm guessing you have a small resolution, with small fonts. Check out the /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see what your resolutions are. They are text files that you can edit as root.

    but could I start KDE with blackbox as my WM?
    Yes.

    It'd really help if you could find out your current resolution.
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    You mean screen resoultion?
    It's 1024 x 768...

    What would change if I use blackbox as WM in stead of KDE:s? Do I get any new functions?

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    I don't know what you're looking for so here's the config:


    # /.../
    # SaX generated XFree86 config file
    # Created on: 2004-06-19T18:02:01+0200.
    #
    # Version: 4.8
    # Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2002
    #
    # Automatically generated by [ISaX] (4.
    # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
    #

    Section "Files"
    InputDevices "/dev/ttyS0"
    InputDevices "/dev/ttyS1"
    InputDevices "/dev/ttyS2"
    InputDevices "/dev/ttyS3"
    InputDevices "/dev/ttyS4"
    InputDevices "/dev/ttyS5"
    InputDevices "/dev/ttyS6"
    InputDevices "/dev/ttyS7"
    InputDevices "/dev/ttyS8"
    InputDevices "/dev/psaux"
    InputDevices "/dev/logibm"
    InputDevices "/dev/sunmouse"
    InputDevices "/dev/atibm"
    InputDevices "/dev/amigamouse"
    InputDevices "/dev/atarimouse"
    InputDevices "/dev/inportbm"
    InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"
    InputDevices "/dev/mouse"
    InputDevices "/dev/usbmouse"
    InputDevices "/dev/adbmouse"
    InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"
    InputDevices "/dev/input/event0"
    InputDevices "/dev/pointer0"
    InputDevices "/dev/pointer1"
    InputDevices "/dev/pointer2"
    InputDevices "/dev/pointer3"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni:unscaled"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
    FontPath "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
    FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts"
    EndSection

    Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
    EndSection

    Section "Module"
    Load "glx"
    Load "dbe"
    Load "extmod"
    Load "freetype"
    Load "v4l"
    Load "type1"
    Load "speedo"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Driver "Keyboard"
    Identifier "Keyboard[0]"
    Option "Protocol" "Standard"
    Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
    Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
    EndSection


    Section "InputDevice"
    Driver "mouse"
    Identifier "Mouse[1]"
    Option "ButtonNumber" "2"
    Option "Buttons" "5"
    Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    Option "Name" "Autodetection"
    Option "Protocol" "imps/2"
    Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Driver "mouse"
    Identifier "Mouse[3]"
    Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
    Option "Name" "Autodetection"
    Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
    Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
    EndSection


    Section "Monitor"
    Option "CalcAlgorithm" "CheckDesktopGeometry"
    DisplaySize 215 285
    HorizSync 31-60
    Identifier "Monitor[0]"
    ModelName "1024X768@60HZ"
    Option "DPMS"
    VendorName "--> LCD"
    VertRefresh 40-60
    UseModes "Modes[0]"
    EndSection


    Section "Modes"
    Identifier "Modes[0]"
    Modeline "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -HSync -VSync
    EndSection


    Section "Screen"
    DefaultDepth 24
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 15
    Modes "800x600"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 16
    Modes "1024x768"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 24
    Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 32
    Modes "800x600"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 8
    Modes "800x600"
    EndSubSection
    Device "Device[0]"
    Identifier "Screen[0]"
    Monitor "Monitor[0]"
    EndSection


    Section "Device"
    BoardName "i830"
    BusID "0:2:0"
    Driver "i810"
    Identifier "Device[0]"
    Screen 0
    VendorName "Intel"
    EndSection


    Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "Layout[all]"
    InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Mouse[3]" "SendCoreEvents"
    Option "Clone" "off"
    Option "Xinerama" "off"
    Screen "Screen[0]"
    EndSection

    Section "DRI"
    Group "video"
    Mode 0660
    EndSection

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