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Originally Posted by ozar Thanks reed9 , some of those apps look very interesting. I'm not familiar at all with mupdf, simpleburn, or viewnior so plan to check them out. ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozar View Post
    Thanks reed9, some of those apps look very interesting. I'm not familiar at all with mupdf, simpleburn, or viewnior so plan to check them out.

    Yes, I'm trying to avoid gnome/kde bloat on this box, but I am using abiword even though it does require a few gnome files. Every once in a while, the abiword devs seem to add another gnome file dependency, which is rather irritating.
    Simpleburn is nice but very basic. You may prefer a more full featured app if you do a lot of burning.

    Mupdf is very fast. Much faster in my experience than any of the poppler based pdf viewers. And much lighter on dependencies.

    Code:
    $ pactree -u epdfview
    epdfview
    poppler-glib
    poppler
    libjpeg
    glibc
    linux-api-headers
    tzdata
    gcc-libs
    cairo
    libpng
    zlib
    libxrender
    libx11
    libxcb
    xcb-proto
    libxdmcp
    xproto
    libxau
    kbproto
    renderproto
    fontconfig
    expat
    freetype2
    pixman
    xcb-util
    libxml2
    readline
    ncurses
    openjpeg
    lcms
    libtiff
    poppler-data
    gtk2
    atk
    glib2
    pcre
    pango
    libxft
    bash
    libthai
    libdatrie
    libxcursor
    libxfixes
    fixesproto
    xextproto
    libxinerama
    libxext
    xineramaproto
    libxrandr
    randrproto
    libxi
    inputproto
    libxcomposite
    compositeproto
    libxdamage
    damageproto
    heimdal
    db
    openssl
    perl
    gdbm
    coreutils
    shadow
    pam
    cracklib
    acl
    attr
    gmp
    libcap
    sqlite3
    e2fsprogs
    util-linux-ng
    filesystem
    iana-etc
    gnutls
    libtasn1
    texinfo
    findutils
    gzip
    libgcrypt
    libgpg-error
    shared-mime-info
    libcups
    avahi
    libdaemon
    dbus
    dbus-core
    desktop-file-utils
    hicolor-icon-theme
    
    $ pacman -u mupdf
    mupdf
    freetype2
    zlib
    glibc
    linux-api-headers
    tzdata
    libjpeg
    jbig2dec
    openjpeg
    libxext
    libx11
    libxcb
    xcb-proto
    libxdmcp
    xproto
    libxau
    kbproto
    xextproto
    
    $ pactree -u epdfview | sort | uniq | xargs pacman -Qi | grep "Installed Size" | awk '{ sum += $4 }END{ print sum }'
    319480
    
    $ pactree -u mupdf | sort | uniq | xargs pacman -Qi | grep "Installed Size" | awk '{ sum += $4 }END{ print sum }'
    86811
    So over 300 MB worth of stuff for epdfview vs. ~86 MB of stuff for mupdf. Of course, much of that will likely already be on your system, but nonetheless.

    Viewnior vs. a lightweight image viewer like Mirage doesn't fare quite as well, but still ~300 MB vs. ~380 MB. It's also quite speedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozar View Post
    Thanks for the comments, jayd512.

    With rox, it certainly seems to be a like it or hate it type thing. I've always liked it but it took about a week before I developed a feel for it and chose the like it side of the fence.
    I really liked Tux Commander but it lacked some features I was looking for at the time so I switched over to PCmanFM. I used Rox for a while but it never grew on me. In my really geeky moods I'll even use mc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rokytnji View Post
    Antix is not the only O/S I run using Icewm.
    Roky, I'm going to have to fire up Antix and have a look. I used Mepis for a long while so it will be sort of like returning home...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Dan View Post
    I really liked Tux Commander but it lacked some features I was looking for at the time so I switched over to PCmanFM. I used Rox for a while but it never grew on me.
    I've also looked at thunar, but it and pcmanfm both want to pull in a few dependencies that I'm trying to avoid. That said, pcmanfm is currently my favorite of those two file managers.
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    Are you familiar with emelfm2? It's a lightweight old style Norton Commander type file manager.

    emelFM2: Another fast file manager

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    Quote Originally Posted by reed9 View Post
    Are you familiar with emelfm2? It's a lightweight old style Norton Commander type file manager.
    Another that is similar to emelfm2, but works well and should work fine with IceWM is worker:

    Worker File Manager - Overview

    I've used both, but it's been years ago for either of them. It seems like we generally have a pretty good selection of terminals, file managers, and text editors under Linux.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozar View Post
    Another that is similar to emelfm2, but works well and should work fine with IceWM is worker:

    Worker File Manager - Overview
    I wasn't familiar with worker. I might have to give that one a shot.
    Good deal!
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    icon themes

    What icon-theme sets are you guys using with your IceWM boxes, or are you just using the few icons that came with IceWM by default?

    I've been using a folder full of icons gathered from my FVWM days, but I'm looking to change that and have already looked at the gnome-icon-theme and tango-icon-theme sets and they look fine, but is there anything better suited for IceWM that I'm missing?

    Thank you.
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    ozar, I don't use icons in the menu but do on the toolbar. For those, I try to stick with whatever the app calls for. When it is something custom, I just look through whatever icons reside on my computer and use one that seems to fit the custom app.
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    Hey, thanks for the reply, Dan.

    Icon related, sort of... I spent a while trying to figure out how to increase the size of the taskbar because the icons that sit there for quick launching apps are so small, and I found that the taskbar height actually depends on the size of the apps menu button that also sits in the taskbar. I'm not interested in the double-height option for the taskbar but would like something just a bit taller, hence part of my reason to be looking around for icon alternatives.
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