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Okay, here comes something tricky, just to warn you.
I have been trying to get a Turtle Beach MultiSound Pinnacle board to work under Linux. It's a revision F model, ...
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Turtle Beach MultiSound Pinnacle
Okay, here comes something tricky, just to warn you.
I have been trying to get a Turtle Beach MultiSound Pinnacle board to work under Linux. It's a revision F model, and it works under Windows 98SE.
[Disclaimer]Yes, I know it's an ISA sound card that's more than ten years old, made in 1997. But this thing wipes the floor with any SoundBlaster unless you're a gamer, or you need surround sound. It's actually a Kurzweil music workstation including its own sampler with an ISA connector. And no, I don't want to replace it with something newer. This particular computer has been built around this very card, so this card is the reason why the machine exists in the first place.[/Disclaimer]
Before anyone asks me whether I searched the forum: I searched the whole Web for solutions. If there was anything useful enough for me already discussed here, the card would be working under Linux now. Besides, I believe that only few people here even still run computers (other than servers and Intel Atom machines) with single-core CPUs, let alone with an ISA slot on the mainboard (ISA for consumers is practically as dead as SCSI and has been for almost a decade), let alone with an actual device in that slot.
Now back to getting it to run. Before ALSA 1.0.20, the ALSA driver (module snd-msnd-pinnacle) was apparently broken. I managed to compile and install it (I had to compile it with settings adapted to my own card since I turned off PnP), but when I inserted the module into the kernel, I got nothing but a kernel oops, and under Ubuntu I was not even able to unload it again. I tested it with various Ubuntu versions and Fedora 10, by the way. I wrote the original maintainer, never got a reply, wrote some people at ALSA (to not have to file an official bug complete with all those procedures necessary just to get to work what may be the one single remaining Pinnacle in a Linux machine worldwide), no reply again, but they worked on snd-msnd-pinnacle before 1.0.20 and 1.0.21 were released.
So I decided to once again build ALSA from sources entirely, now under Ubuntu 9.04. The latter comes with ALSA 1.0.18 which is useless for my needs (snd-msnd-pinnacle not repaired yet and so on), besides, snd-msnd-pinnacle didn't come with it as a binary (what for anyway, for one card or what). I got me the latest sources and began to build it according to ALSA's own manual, starting with the driver. The config line read as follows with all the options I got from Windows and the card's own jumper settings:
Yes, this was necessary for a non-PnP ISA device.Code:./configure --with-cards=msnd-pinnacle io=0x290 irq=10 mem=0xd8000 cfg=0x270 mpu_io=0x330 mpu_irq=9 isapnp=0 index=0 --with-isapnp=no --with-sequencer=yes
- io = The Pinnacle's I/O port
- irq = The Pinnacle's IRQ
- mem = The Pinnacle's memory array
- cfg = The Pinnacle's control I/O port (needed when it's jumpered to non-PnP)
- mpu_io = The Kurzweil MA-1 synth's I/O port
- mpu_irq = The Kurzweil MA-1 synth's IRQ (this beast takes up up to three IRQs and six I/O ports when you're also using stuff like the on-board IDE controller for a CD-ROM drive)
- isapnp/with-isapnp = ISA PnP mode (turned off, it's a Plug 'n Pray card anyway, manual configuration was the only way to get it to work under Windows, and I think rejumpering it according to what OS I'm booting is ridiculous)
- index = it's my primary (and only) piece of sound hardware on this machine
- with-sequencer = MIDI sequencer support, turned on to be safe
Well, I built it, I even got me the necessary firmware files from Turtle Beach and put them into the respective folders.
I made an /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf from scratch which reads like this:
However, snd-msnd-pinnacle is not loaded at startup. There is no error message at all, but this appears in dmesg:Code:options snd slots=snd-msnd-pinnacle alias snd-card-0 snd-msnd-pinnacle options snd-msnd-pinnacle cfg=0x270 io=0x290 irq=10 mem=0xd8000 mpu_io=0x330 mpu_irq=9 isapnp=0 index=0
The only line I agree with is the first line.Code:[ 94.366286] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Non-PnP mode: configuring at port 0x270 [ 94.366303] snd_msnd_pinnacle: snd_msnd_write_cfg: I/O error [ 94.366327] msnd-pinnacle: probe of msnd-pinnacle.0 failed with error -5
The German UbuntuUsers forum recommends a few lines to check certain things:
I apologize for the German, but I am German. By the way, there has never been a /proc/asound/card0 at all. Besides, I'm wondering why it's looking for something AC '97-like.Code:martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ lsb_release -d Description: Ubuntu 9.04 martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ uname -r 2.6.28-15-generic martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards --- martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ aplay -l aplay: device_list:223: keine Soundkarten gefunden ... martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0' ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4633:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default aplay: main:608: Fehler beim Öffnen des Gerätes: No such file or directory martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ lspci | grep -i audio martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ ps -C esd PID TTY TIME CMD martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ ps -C arts PID TTY TIME CMD martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ ps -C pulseaudio PID TTY TIME CMD 3501 ? 00:00:00 pulseaudio martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ grep "^audio" /etc/group | grep "$USER" | wc -l 0 martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ lsmod | grep "snd" snd_msnd_pinnacle 25228 0 snd_msnd_lib 22148 1 snd_msnd_pinnacle snd_mpu401_uart 15360 1 snd_msnd_pinnacle snd_rawmidi 29984 2 snd_msnd_lib,snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 15372 1 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm_oss 45984 0 snd_mixer_oss 22912 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 83716 3 snd_msnd_pinnacle,snd_msnd_lib,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 29192 1 snd_pcm snd 62244 9 snd_msnd_pinnacle,snd_msnd_lib,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer snd_page_alloc 17032 1 snd_pcm soundcore 15200 1 snd martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ head -n 3 /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 head: „/proc/asound/card0/codec#0“ kann nicht zum Lesen geöffnet werden: No such file or directory martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ head -n 3 /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0 head: „/proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0“ kann nicht zum Lesen geöffnet werden: No such file or directory martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ head -n 3 /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0+regs head: „/proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0+regs“ kann nicht zum Lesen geöffnet werden: No such file or directory martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ asoundconf list Names of available sound cards: martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ cat ~/.asoundrc cat: /home/martin/.asoundrc: No such file or directory martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ cat ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf cat: /home/martin/.asoundrc.asoundconf: No such file or directory
A bit of information about the (successfully built) module snd-msnd-pinnacle, since you folks might not see it every day:
These are the first two hwinfo entries (the rest has got nothing to do with the Pinnie):Code:martin(at)DerNeueAlte:/~$ modinfo snd-msnd-pinnacle filename: /lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/kernel/sound/isa/msnd/snd-msnd-pinnacle.ko firmware: turtlebeach/pndsperm.bin firmware: turtlebeach/pndspini.bin license: GPL description: Turtle Beach MultiSound (Pinnacle/Fiji) Linux Driver author: Karsten Wiese <###(address of maintainer)###> srcversion: 7E1D1FF6894B0D5D14A1898 alias: acpi*:TBS0001:* alias: pnp:dTBS0001* alias: acpi*:TBS0000:* alias: pnp:dTBS0000* depends: snd-msnd-lib,snd-pcm,snd,snd-mpu401-uart vermagic: 2.6.28-15-generic SMP mod_unload modversions 586 parm: index:Index value for msnd_pinnacle soundcard. (array of int) parm: id:ID string for msnd_pinnacle soundcard. (array of charp) parm: isapnp:ISA PnP detection for specified soundcard. (array of bool) parm: io:IO port # (array of long) parm: irq:array of int parm: mem:array of long parm: write_ndelay:array of int parm: calibrate_signal:int parm: digital:array of int parm: cfg:array of long parm: reset:array of int parm: mpu_io:array of long parm: mpu_irq:array of int parm: ide_io0:array of long parm: ide_io1:array of long parm: ide_irq:array of int parm: joystick_io:array of long
Please note "Hardware Class: unknown". Ubuntu does not know this is a sound card.Code:martin(at)DerNeueAlte:/proc$ hwinfo --isapnp 09: ISA(PnP) 01.1: 0000 Unclassified device [Created at isapnp.142] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pnp_TBS0001 Unique ID: u9pt.HJ8b5IkvLf0 SysFS ID: /devices/pnp1/01:01/01:01.01 SysFS BusID: 01:01.01 Hardware Class: unknown Model: "Turtle Beach Pinnacle" Vendor: TBS Device: eisa 0x2002 "Turtle Beach Pinnacle" SubVendor: TBS SubDevice: eisa 0x0001 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown 10: ISA(PnP) 01.0: 0000 Unclassified device [Created at isapnp.142] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pnp_TBS0000 Unique ID: R_Yp.mhY9+SljT2D SysFS ID: /devices/pnp1/01:01/01:01.00 SysFS BusID: 01:01.00 Hardware Class: unknown Model: "Turtle Beach Pinnacle" Vendor: TBS Device: eisa 0x2002 "Turtle Beach Pinnacle" SubVendor: TBS SubDevice: eisa 0x0000 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown (snip)
Talking about ISA PnP:
It found an ISA PnP card—despite the fact that the Pinnacle is explicitly jumpered non-ISA PnP. There isn't any other ISA hardware in this computer, in fact, there is even only one ISA slot on the mainboard.Code:martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ dmesg | grep isapnp [ 1.653083] isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... [ 1.783316] isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
The resources chosen for the Pinnacle are all vacant:
And snd-msnd-pinnacle isn't a Legacy Non-PnP ISA Driver either. Error messages from alsaconf:Code:martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ cat /proc/ioports 0000-001f : dma1 0020-0021 : pic1 0040-0043 : timer0 0050-0053 : timer1 0060-0060 : keyboard 0064-0064 : keyboard 0070-0073 : rtc0 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00a1 : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0170-0177 : 0000:00:07.1 0170-0177 : pata_via 01f0-01f7 : 0000:00:07.1 01f0-01f7 : pata_via 0213-0213 : ISAPnP 02f8-02ff : serial 0376-0376 : 0000:00:07.1 0376-0376 : pata_via 0378-037a : parport0 037b-037f : parport0 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f2-03f5 : floppy 03f6-03f6 : 0000:00:07.1 03f6-03f6 : pata_via 03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR 03f8-03ff : serial 04d0-04d1 : pnp 00:02 0a79-0a79 : isapnp write 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1 4000-4003 : ACPI PM1a_EVT_BLK 4008-400b : ACPI PM_TMR 4010-4015 : ACPI CPU throttle 4020-4023 : ACPI GPE0_BLK 40f0-40f1 : ACPI PM1a_CNT_BLK 5000-500f : 0000:00:07.4 5000-5007 : vt596_smbus 6000-607f : via686a 6000-607f : 0000:00:07.4 6000-607f : via686a e000-e00f : 0000:00:07.1 e000-e00f : pata_via e400-e41f : 0000:00:07.2 e400-e41f : uhci_hcd e800-e81f : 0000:00:07.3 e800-e81f : uhci_hcd martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 1421123 XT-PIC-XT timer 1: 15586 XT-PIC-XT i8042 2: 0 XT-PIC-XT cascade 5: 386512 XT-PIC-XT nvidia 6: 4 XT-PIC-XT floppy 7: 4 XT-PIC-XT parport0 8: 0 XT-PIC-XT rtc0 11: 72673 XT-PIC-XT acpi, uhci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2, 0000:00:0f.0 12: 131461 XT-PIC-XT i8042 14: 28293 XT-PIC-XT pata_via 15: 65663 XT-PIC-XT pata_via NMI: 0 Non-maskable interrupts LOC: 0 Local timer interrupts RES: 0 Rescheduling interrupts CAL: 0 Function call interrupts TLB: 0 TLB shootdowns SPU: 0 Spurious interrupts ERR: 0 MIS: 0 martin(at)DerNeueAlte:~$ cat /proc/iomem 00000000-00001fff : System RAM 00002000-00005fff : reserved 00006000-00006fff : System RAM 00007000-0000ffff : reserved 00010000-00092bff : System RAM 0009fc00-0009ffff : reserved 000a0000-000bffff : Video RAM area 000c0000-000cf7ff : Video ROM 000cf800-000cffff : pnp 00:00 000f0000-000fffff : reserved 000f0000-000fffff : System ROM 00100000-1ffeffff : System RAM 00100000-005050fe : Kernel code 005050ff-0072ae5f : Kernel data 007b8000-008780ab : Kernel bss 01402000-01402fff : Local APIC 1fff0000-1fff2fff : ACPI Non-volatile Storage 1fff3000-1fffffff : ACPI Tables e0000000-e7ffffff : PCI Bus 0000:01 e0000000-e7ffffff : 0000:01:00.0 e8000000-ebffffff : 0000:00:00.0 ec000000-edffffff : PCI Bus 0000:01 ec000000-ecffffff : 0000:01:00.0 ec000000-ecffffff : nvidia ed000000-ed01ffff : 0000:01:00.0 ee000000-ee007fff : 0000:00:0f.0 ee000000-ee007fff : 0000:00:0f.0 fee00000-fee00fff : pnp 00:00 ffff0000-ffffffff : reserved ffff0000-ffffffff : pnp 00:00
↑These↑ are the Legacy Non-PnP ISA Drivers.Code:(snip) modinfo: could not find module snd-opl3sa2 modinfo: could not find module snd-cs4236 modinfo: could not find module snd-cs4232 modinfo: could not find module snd-cs4231 modinfo: could not find module snd-es18xx modinfo: could not find module snd-es1688 modinfo: could not find module snd-sb16 modinfo: could not find module snd-sb8 (snip)
It's not that I'm in dire need of help with this card, it's just that it would be nice if I got it to work. Furthermore, I'm not at this particular computer that often, so it's normal if I cannot give you detailed answers for two, three, or four weeks.
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You are not alone ... I also have a TB Pinnacle card (currently in a little used 100MHz Pentium 1 W95 m/c). I would like to install it in a Ubuntu 9.10 m/c (1GHz dual pentium III, GigaByte 6UXD7 motherboard). I really like this soundcard for the Kurz synth. I look forward to following your progress. Good Luck!
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Well, I hoped someone else would have a clue or could make something out of the messages I posted. But I guess installing obscure 1990s ISA hardware has fallen into oblivion, as have the error messages.
The situation might change, though. I'm going to reinstall both Windows (I'll try 7 first, and if that fails, XP) and Ubuntu, and while doing that, I'm going to jumper the Pinnacle to PnP mode. I hope it will work as a PnP card then (I heard installing it under XP was a lot easier than under 98SE).
If everything else fails, I might try to build my own kernel. The kernel might be a troublemaker actually. The thing is that support for all sorts of stuff is compiled into the Ubuntu kernel; I haven't looked at the config for years, but I believe this includes the Fiji/Pinnacle driver. Since it can be built in a number of configurations, my guess is that it is configured for PnP.
Edit: Stupid me. The card had been jumpered for PnP all the time. I should take a look at my hardware every now and then...
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Okay, new approach.
The Pinnacle is now jumpered non-PnP with 0x250 being the config port (will be required to make that thing run under Windows XP which doesn't support ISA PnP anymore, making non-PnP ISA necessary *sigh*, but those troubles with sudden BSODs and stuff are an entirely different story).
The module has been built accordingly using Ubuntu's own alsa-source (1.0.20, in case you're curious). I installed alsa-source with all corresponding tools to build it with module-assistant. I configured alsa-source with
That didn't offer me all settings I needed, so I went to edit /etc/alsa/alsa-source manually and changed the line starting with ALSA_CARD_OPTIONS toCode:sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
Then I built it.Code:ALSA_CARD_OPTIONS="io=0x290 irq=10 mem=0xd8000 cfg=0x250 mpu_io=0x330 mpu_irq=9 isapnp=0"
According to Ubuntu, this command also installed the driver. Well, as it appears, so it did. The module snd-msnd-pinnacle was built, and I can check it with modinfo.Code:sudo m-a a-i alsa-source
To be safe, I edited /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and added these two lines:
I found out that the system tries to load the module assuming ISA PnP mode unless one explicitly states it's non-PnP ISA (isapnp=0) wherever possible.Code:alias sound-card0 snd-msnd-pinnacle options snd-msnd-pinnacle irq=10 io=0x290 mem=0xd8000 mpu_irq=9 mpu_io=0x330 cfg=0x250 isapnp=0 index=0
However, as of now, it refuses to be loaded at system startup (mind you that Legacy as in non-PnP ISA drivers need special precautions to be loaded; I'm still working on finding all this out). And probing it manually doesn't work either. My first attempts added lines like these to /var/sys/syslog:
Okay. It needed the Turtle Beach firmware files pndspini.bin and pndsperm.bin, the same files that used to go to /etc/sound in the good ol' OSS days. I happen to be in possession of these files—don't ask me where they're from, I'm working on remembering this, too. I don't think I've got them from Turtle Beach, they only supply you with the Assembler code to build them). At least I know now that they're required for loading the module. They might also be needed for building them, but they seem to come with the source. What I don't understand, though, is how you can require these files for inserting the module, and at the same time, they're rm -rfed automatically after building (I read it somewhere in source code)?Code:Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 130.607027] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Non-PnP mode: configuring at port 0x250 Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 130.607120] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Configuring MPU to I/O 0x330 IRQ 9 Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 130.620050] snd_msnd_pinnacle: TB Pinnacle revision F, Xilinx version 1.4, I/O 0x290-0x297, IRQ 10, memory mapped to 0xD8000-0xDFFFF Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 130.664059] msnd-pinnacle msnd-pinnacle.0: firmware: requesting turtlebeach/pndspini.bin Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 130.672556] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Error loading turtlebeach/pndspini.bin Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 130.672568] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Cannot upload DSP code Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 130.672571] snd_msnd_pinnacle: DSP reset failed Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 130.672600] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Attach failed Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 130.672626] msnd-pinnacle: probe of msnd-pinnacle.0 failed with error -2 Dec 24 16:47:25 DerNeueAlte firmware.sh[1995]: Cannot find firmware file 'turtlebeach/pndspini.bin'
Somehow I had figured out earlier that the directory "turtlebeach" means the path "/lib/firmware/turtlebeach" and has to be created unless you've already had a Turtle Beach card running on that system.
I created the directory, copied the files in, modprobed, and
"Upload host data not multiple of 3!" Great. Now I seem to have reached a point at which only the developers can help me out, for the only references to this which can be found on the web are copies of the source code of alsa-driver.Code:Dec 24 16:51:35 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 381.053866] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Configuring MPU to I/O 0x330 IRQ 9 Dec 24 16:51:35 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 381.072107] snd_msnd_pinnacle: TB Pinnacle revision F, Xilinx version 1.4, I/O 0x290-0x297, IRQ 10, memory mapped to 0xD8000-0xDFFFF Dec 24 16:51:35 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 381.128086] msnd-pinnacle msnd-pinnacle.0: firmware: requesting turtlebeach/pndspini.bin Dec 24 16:51:35 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 381.138353] msnd-pinnacle msnd-pinnacle.0: firmware: requesting turtlebeach/pndsperm.bin Dec 24 16:51:36 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 381.181783] ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/isa/msnd/../../alsa-kernel/isa/msnd/msnd.c:130: msnd: Upload host data not multiple of 3! Dec 24 16:51:36 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 381.181796] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Error uploading to DSP Dec 24 16:51:36 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 381.181817] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Cannot upload DSP code Dec 24 16:51:36 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 381.181819] snd_msnd_pinnacle: DSP reset failed Dec 24 16:51:36 DerNeueAlte kernel: [ 381.181847] snd_msnd_pinnacle: Attach failed
Or can anyone here make something of this?
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Three already
Hi,
my TB Pinnacle has been sleeping in a box for a while (kids could make You hobbies disappear
however my newer computer is broken now so I use old one, one of the last QDI boards equipped with ISA slot.
So I have simply plugged the card in and awaiting the "whoila", however after booting Debian Squeeze, nothing happened, no card detected, so I was kind of disappointed. Then I found this forum.
I positively know, that I used this card with PnP ON with some Debian version, probably the Etch. The card worked well. The Etch was of kernel version 2.6.18. So anything has happened to the driver, it should have been after 2.6.18.
I also have long standing problems with even older from Turtle Beach - the Tropez. This is quite old piece of hardware, no PnP available, however it worked with Debian Woody somehow, and I don't know whether I simply forgot how to make it work (I was even not quite sure of the right parameters), or something has broken later in kernel so that I couldn't start it anymore. The Tropez was an exceptional piece of soundcard with such a sound quality that no Soundblaster could have matched for 10 years forward...
Back to the Pinnacle. I know that the pndsp*.bin files I must have compiled from TB source files, I might even be able to find the manual page if necessarry.
After the effort You have shown, I really think that the only way to go is thru kernel developers. I don't have so much time to do it myself, but I will be glad to hear of any accomplishment of Yours.


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