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  1. #1

    NVIDIA Driver problems?

    Man, haven't posted here in a while... Decided to stop using FC4 cause it was retarded and i would try FC3.... Everything runs fine now so don't expect anymore questions about GCC again from me

    Anyways, i think i'm having a problem.... My NVIDIA driver sucks (then again, so does my graphics card and processor). I installed it (and no, not through RPM this time...YAY) and the nvidia logo popped up when i started X Windows and what not... but i start playing 1.6 and holy crap the fps still suck...not as much as they used to, but they still suck. It should be running at around 60 FPS with 1280 by 1024 resolution (it does on Windows anyways)! What the fizzle my nizzle?!

    So, what i want to know is how i can tweak my NVIDIA driver. I might just try the rpm again and see if it helps more, but idk.

    Heres a list of stuff i want to know

    - Why is it so slow
    - What to do
    - How to tweak my nvidia card
    - How to get into init 3 with out going to /etc/inittab and editing it (i remember there was a hotkey i could press that would get me into it, but i don't remember it now).

    For now, i'm just gonna uninstall the driver and test the RPM and see if the RPM can do anybetter. If it doesn't, i'll try lower versions of official NVIDIA drivers and see if they do better....if they don't then..... :'(

    EDIT: Almost forgot to post my specs:

    OS: Fedora Core 3
    Graphic Card: GeForce FX 5500
    Processor: AMD Sempron 1200
    RAM: 1.25 GB (approximate)
    Sound Card: Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 Bit (works btw)
    Kernel: 2.6.9-1.667

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    Re: NVIDIA sucks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous1c4
    but i start playing 1.6 and holy crap the fps still suck...not as much as they used to, but they still suck. It should be running at around 60 FPS with 1280 by 1024 resolution (it does on Windows anyways)! What the fizzle my nizzle?!
    What game are you trying to play?

    - Why is it so slow
    - What to do
    - How to tweak my nvidia card
    A Sempron system with a Geforce FX5500 isn't exactly a screamer to begin with, but you should be able to get decent performance, depending heavily on what games you're trying to play. I wouldn't expect your system for instance to be able to run Doom 3, but Quake 3 should run fine.

    - How to get into init 3 with out going to /etc/inittab and editing it (i remember there was a hotkey i could press that would get me into it, but i don't remember it now).
    CTRL+ALT+F1 will bring you to a terminal where you can log in as root and execute the init 3 command. Substituting F2, F3, F4, F5 and F6 will do the same thing.
    Registered Linux user #270181

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    Re: NVIDIA sucks...

    What game are you trying to play?
    I assume that this is Counter-Strike 1.6, since he said 1.6.

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    lol, well not just 1.6. I play UT2k4 and CS:S

    However, since the update on Steam thats been reaking havoc on Source games, i've decided to stay away from CS:S...even if i am on linux (no seriously...i was getting some MAAAAJOR problems...i had to reformat cause it was that bad... I couldn't even play UT2k4...but since there wasn't much on the hard drive to begin with, it didn't really matter).

    I just used 1.6 as an example cause it was the most noticeable diffrence between when i run it on Windows and when i run it on Linux. 1.6 would range from 55 - 60 on 1280 x 1024 on Windows, but on Linux, it would range from 15 - 30 on only...640 x 480. It was that bad. But, since 1.6 is running off an emulator (cedega), its no surprise its just shows i need some better hardware. UT2k4, on the other hand, had a smaller diffrence in an fps decrease then 1.6 did. I could still have it on 640 x 480 with medium-low settings on Linux. On Windows, I could have it at 800 x 600 with medium settings.

    So, in other words, i'm trying to play games like UT2k4, CS 1.6, CS:S, and anything similar to them. Once I get some new hardware, i won't even bother cause the fps will be that good and so will the graphics.

    EDIT: Well, the RPM was a complete failure.... YUM is not downloading anything what-so-ever, and there is no NVIDIA RPM version compatible with my kernels (which is odd, cause nvidia didn't even have to make its own kernel or give me that "nvidia will now download a kernel from ftp servers" or whatever when i installed the official one from the NVIDIA site. The only time i got that message is when i was using 2.6.12-1.378_FC3 ....i think thats the kernel name. However, i don't use that kernel anymore because it seems to be incompatible with my Sound Blaster Live! 24 bit).

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    Sounds like you are having a pretty rough time there then. Sounds like a big problem if Yum isnt working, and other stuff. You could get apt-get for RPMs and tell that to get you the nvidia drivers?

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    The newest nvidia driver has dropped support for older cards. Either use the nvidia-legacy driver, or an older version.

  8. #7 basically, i should just use like... 1.0-7667 and my fps problem won't be as bad?

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    Maybe... Here's the table of supported cards for 7667:
    Appendix A. Supported NVIDIA Graphics Chips
    __________________________________________________ ________________________

    NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID
    ------------------------------- -------------------------------
    GeForce 6800 Ultra 0x0040
    GeForce 6800 0x0041
    GeForce 6800 GT 0x0045
    GeForce 6800 GT 0x0046
    Quadro FX 4000 0x004E
    GeForce 7800 GTX 0x0091
    GeForce 6800 0x00C1
    GeForce 6800 LE 0x00C2
    GeForce Go 6800 0x00C8
    GeForce Go 6800 Ultra 0x00C9
    Quadro FX Go1400 0x00CC
    Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI 0x00CD
    Quadro FX 1400 0x00CE
    GeForce 6800/GeForce 6800 Ultra 0x00F0
    GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT 0x00F1
    GeForce 6600 0x00F2
    GeForce 6200 0x00F3
    Quadro FX 3400 0x00F8
    GeForce 6800 Ultra 0x00F9
    GeForce PCX 5750 0x00FA
    GeForce PCX 5900 0x00FB
    Quadro FX 330/GeForce PCX 5300 0x00FC
    Quadro NVS 280 PCI-E 0x00FD
    Quadro FX 330 0x00FD
    Quadro FX 1300 0x00FE
    GeForce PCX 4300 0x00FF
    GeForce2 MX/MX 400 0x0110
    GeForce2 MX 100/200 0x0111
    GeForce2 Go 0x0112
    Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go 0x0113
    GeForce 6600 GT 0x0140
    GeForce 6600 0x0141
    GeForce 6600 LE 0x0142
    GeForce Go 6600 0x0144
    GeForce 6610 XL 0x0145
    GeForce Go 6600 TE/6200 TE 0x0146
    GeForce Go 6600 0x0148
    GeForce Go 6600 GT 0x0149
    Quadro FX 540 0x014E
    GeForce 6200 0x014F
    GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) 0x0161
    GeForce Go 6200 0x0164
    GeForce Go 6400 0x0166
    GeForce Go 6200 0x0167
    GeForce Go 6400 0x0168
    GeForce4 MX 460 0x0170
    GeForce4 MX 440 0x0171
    GeForce4 MX 420 0x0172
    GeForce4 MX 440-SE 0x0173
    GeForce4 440 Go 0x0174
    GeForce4 420 Go 0x0175
    GeForce4 420 Go 32M 0x0176
    GeForce4 460 Go 0x0177
    Quadro4 550 XGL 0x0178
    GeForce4 440 Go 64M 0x0179
    Quadro NVS 0x017A
    Quadro4 500 GoGL 0x017C
    GeForce4 410 Go 16M 0x017D
    GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X 0x0181
    GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X 0x0182
    GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X 0x0183
    GeForce4 MX 4000 0x0185
    Quadro4 580 XGL 0x0188
    Quadro NVS with AGP8X 0x018A
    Quadro4 380 XGL 0x018B
    Quadro NVS 50 PCI 0x018C
    GeForce2 Integrated GPU 0x01A0
    GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU 0x01F0
    GeForce3 0x0200
    GeForce3 Ti 200 0x0201
    GeForce3 Ti 500 0x0202
    Quadro DCC 0x0203
    GeForce 6800 0x0211
    GeForce 6800 LE 0x0212
    GeForce 6800 GT 0x0215
    GeForce4 Ti 4600 0x0250
    GeForce4 Ti 4400 0x0251
    GeForce4 Ti 4200 0x0253
    Quadro4 900 XGL 0x0258
    Quadro4 750 XGL 0x0259
    Quadro4 700 XGL 0x025B
    GeForce4 Ti 4800 0x0280
    GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X 0x0281
    GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE 0x0282
    GeForce4 4200 Go 0x0286
    Quadro4 980 XGL 0x0288
    Quadro4 780 XGL 0x0289
    Quadro4 700 GoGL 0x028C
    GeForce FX 5800 Ultra 0x0301
    GeForce FX 5800 0x0302
    Quadro FX 2000 0x0308
    Quadro FX 1000 0x0309
    GeForce FX 5600 Ultra 0x0311
    GeForce FX 5600 0x0312
    GeForce FX 5600XT 0x0314
    GeForce FX Go5600 0x031A
    GeForce FX Go5650 0x031B
    Quadro FX Go700 0x031C
    GeForce FX 5200 0x0320
    GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 0x0321
    GeForce FX 5200 0x0322
    GeForce FX 5200LE 0x0323
    GeForce FX Go5200 0x0324
    GeForce FX Go5250 0x0325
    GeForce FX 5500 0x0326
    GeForce FX 5100 0x0327
    GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M 0x0328
    Quadro NVS 280 PCI 0x032A
    Quadro FX 500/600 PCI 0x032B
    GeForce FX Go53xx 0x032C
    GeForce FX Go5100 0x032D
    GeForce FX 5900 Ultra 0x0330
    GeForce FX 5900 0x0331
    GeForce FX 5900XT 0x0332
    GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 0x0333
    GeForce FX 5900ZT 0x0334
    Quadro FX 3000 0x0338
    Quadro FX 700 0x033F
    GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 0x0341
    GeForce FX 5700 0x0342
    GeForce FX 5700LE 0x0343
    GeForce FX 5700VE 0x0344
    GeForce FX Go5700 0x0347
    GeForce FX Go5700 0x0348
    Quadro FX Go1000 0x034C
    Quadro FX 1100 0x034E

    Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver.
    These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA
    GPU driver releases.

    NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID
    ------------------------------- -------------------------------
    RIVA TNT 0x0020
    RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro 0x0028
    RIVA TNT2 Ultra 0x0029
    Vanta/Vanta LT 0x002C
    RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro 0x002D
    Aladdin TNT2 0x00A0
    GeForce 256 0x0100
    GeForce DDR 0x0101
    Quadro 0x0103
    GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro 0x0150
    GeForce2 Ti 0x0151
    GeForce2 Ultra 0x0152
    Quadro2 Pro 0x0153

    If your is one of the cards at the bottom, you will need an even older driver(or the nvidia legacy driver which I have no clue where to get...). It seems to be the same for 7664.

    From what I can read here: you will need driver 7174. It's worth a shot.

  10. #9
    Alright, i'll try 7174 first and if it still sucks then i'll try 7667.

  11. #10
    With the exception of UT:2k4 (GOTY is better ) did anybody bother to think that the reason your getting terrible framerates is because your using cedega to run counter-strike? (well, steam) don't expect exeptional performance under cedega, and don't ***** about the driver being bad when the game doesnt play well, keep in mind your not running it natively under linux.

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