NVIDIA Driver problems?

[Anonymous1c4]

Man, haven't posted here in a while... Decided to stop using FC4 cause it was retarded and i would try FC3.... Everything runs fine now so don't expect anymore questions about GCC again from me

Anyways, i think i'm having a problem.... My NVIDIA driver sucks (then again, so does my graphics card and processor). I installed it (and no, not through RPM this time...YAY) and the nvidia logo popped up when i started X Windows and what not... but i start playing 1.6 and holy crap the fps still suck...not as much as they used to, but they still suck. It should be running at around 60 FPS with 1280 by 1024 resolution (it does on Windows anyways)! What the fizzle my nizzle?!

So, what i want to know is how i can tweak my NVIDIA driver. I might just try the rpm again and see if it helps more, but idk.

Heres a list of stuff i want to know

- Why is it so slow
- What to do
- How to tweak my nvidia card
- How to get into init 3 with out going to /etc/inittab and editing it (i remember there was a hotkey i could press that would get me into it, but i don't remember it now).

For now, i'm just gonna uninstall the driver and test the RPM and see if the RPM can do anybetter. If it doesn't, i'll try lower versions of official NVIDIA drivers and see if they do better....if they don't then..... :'(

EDIT: Almost forgot to post my specs:

OS: Fedora Core 3
Graphic Card: GeForce FX 5500
Processor: AMD Sempron 1200
RAM: 1.25 GB (approximate)
Sound Card: Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 Bit (works btw)
Kernel: 2.6.9-1.667

[techieMoe]

but i start playing 1.6 and holy crap the fps still suck...not as much as they used to, but they still suck. It should be running at around 60 FPS with 1280 by 1024 resolution (it does on Windows anyways)! What the fizzle my nizzle?!

What game are you trying to play?

- Why is it so slow
- What to do
- How to tweak my nvidia card

A Sempron system with a Geforce FX5500 isn't exactly a screamer to begin with, but you should be able to get decent performance, depending heavily on what games you're trying to play. I wouldn't expect your system for instance to be able to run Doom 3, but Quake 3 should run fine.

- How to get into init 3 with out going to /etc/inittab and editing it (i remember there was a hotkey i could press that would get me into it, but i don't remember it now).

CTRL+ALT+F1 will bring you to a terminal where you can log in as root and execute the init 3 command. Substituting F2, F3, F4, F5 and F6 will do the same thing.

[vitalka]

What game are you trying to play?

I assume that this is Counter-Strike 1.6, since he said 1.6.

[Anonymous1c4]

lol, well not just 1.6. I play UT2k4 and CS:S

However, since the update on Steam thats been reaking havoc on Source games, i've decided to stay away from CS:S...even if i am on linux (no seriously...i was getting some MAAAAJOR problems...i had to reformat cause it was that bad... I couldn't even play UT2k4...but since there wasn't much on the hard drive to begin with, it didn't really matter).

I just used 1.6 as an example cause it was the most noticeable diffrence between when i run it on Windows and when i run it on Linux. 1.6 would range from 55 - 60 on 1280 x 1024 on Windows, but on Linux, it would range from 15 - 30 on only...640 x 480. It was that bad. But, since 1.6 is running off an emulator (cedega), its no surprise its slow....it just shows i need some better hardware. UT2k4, on the other hand, had a smaller diffrence in an fps decrease then 1.6 did. I could still have it on 640 x 480 with medium-low settings on Linux. On Windows, I could have it at 800 x 600 with medium settings.

So, in other words, i'm trying to play games like UT2k4, CS 1.6, CS:S, and anything similar to them. Once I get some new hardware, i won't even bother cause the fps will be that good and so will the graphics.

EDIT: Well, the RPM was a complete failure.... YUM is not downloading anything what-so-ever, and there is no NVIDIA RPM version compatible with my kernels (which is odd, cause nvidia didn't even have to make its own kernel or give me that "nvidia will now download a kernel from ftp servers" or whatever when i installed the official one from the NVIDIA site. The only time i got that message is when i was using 2.6.12-1.378_FC3 ....i think thats the kernel name. However, i don't use that kernel anymore because it seems to be incompatible with my Sound Blaster Live! 24 bit).

[onlinebacon]

Sounds like you are having a pretty rough time there then. Sounds like a big problem if Yum isnt working, and other stuff. You could get apt-get for RPMs and tell that to get you the nvidia drivers?

[jaboua]

The newest nvidia driver has dropped support for older cards. Either use the nvidia-legacy driver, or an older version.

[Anonymous1c4]

Oh...so basically, i should just use like... 1.0-7667 and my fps problem won't be as bad?

[jaboua]

Maybe... Here's the table of supported cards for 7667:

Appendix A. Supported NVIDIA Graphics Chips
__________________________________________________ ________________________


NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID
------------------------------- -------------------------------
GeForce 6800 Ultra 0x0040
GeForce 6800 0x0041
GeForce 6800 GT 0x0045
GeForce 6800 GT 0x0046
Quadro FX 4000 0x004E
GeForce 7800 GTX 0x0091
GeForce 6800 0x00C1
GeForce 6800 LE 0x00C2
GeForce Go 6800 0x00C8
GeForce Go 6800 Ultra 0x00C9
Quadro FX Go1400 0x00CC
Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI 0x00CD
Quadro FX 1400 0x00CE
GeForce 6800/GeForce 6800 Ultra 0x00F0
GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT 0x00F1
GeForce 6600 0x00F2
GeForce 6200 0x00F3
Quadro FX 3400 0x00F8
GeForce 6800 Ultra 0x00F9
GeForce PCX 5750 0x00FA
GeForce PCX 5900 0x00FB
Quadro FX 330/GeForce PCX 5300 0x00FC
Quadro NVS 280 PCI-E 0x00FD
Quadro FX 330 0x00FD
Quadro FX 1300 0x00FE
GeForce PCX 4300 0x00FF
GeForce2 MX/MX 400 0x0110
GeForce2 MX 100/200 0x0111
GeForce2 Go 0x0112
Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go 0x0113
GeForce 6600 GT 0x0140
GeForce 6600 0x0141
GeForce 6600 LE 0x0142
GeForce Go 6600 0x0144
GeForce 6610 XL 0x0145
GeForce Go 6600 TE/6200 TE 0x0146
GeForce Go 6600 0x0148
GeForce Go 6600 GT 0x0149
Quadro FX 540 0x014E
GeForce 6200 0x014F
GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) 0x0161
GeForce Go 6200 0x0164
GeForce Go 6400 0x0166
GeForce Go 6200 0x0167
GeForce Go 6400 0x0168
GeForce4 MX 460 0x0170
GeForce4 MX 440 0x0171
GeForce4 MX 420 0x0172
GeForce4 MX 440-SE 0x0173
GeForce4 440 Go 0x0174
GeForce4 420 Go 0x0175
GeForce4 420 Go 32M 0x0176
GeForce4 460 Go 0x0177
Quadro4 550 XGL 0x0178
GeForce4 440 Go 64M 0x0179
Quadro NVS 0x017A
Quadro4 500 GoGL 0x017C
GeForce4 410 Go 16M 0x017D
GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X 0x0181
GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X 0x0182
GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X 0x0183
GeForce4 MX 4000 0x0185
Quadro4 580 XGL 0x0188
Quadro NVS with AGP8X 0x018A
Quadro4 380 XGL 0x018B
Quadro NVS 50 PCI 0x018C
GeForce2 Integrated GPU 0x01A0
GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU 0x01F0
GeForce3 0x0200
GeForce3 Ti 200 0x0201
GeForce3 Ti 500 0x0202
Quadro DCC 0x0203
GeForce 6800 0x0211
GeForce 6800 LE 0x0212
GeForce 6800 GT 0x0215
GeForce4 Ti 4600 0x0250
GeForce4 Ti 4400 0x0251
GeForce4 Ti 4200 0x0253
Quadro4 900 XGL 0x0258
Quadro4 750 XGL 0x0259
Quadro4 700 XGL 0x025B
GeForce4 Ti 4800 0x0280
GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X 0x0281
GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE 0x0282
GeForce4 4200 Go 0x0286
Quadro4 980 XGL 0x0288
Quadro4 780 XGL 0x0289
Quadro4 700 GoGL 0x028C
GeForce FX 5800 Ultra 0x0301
GeForce FX 5800 0x0302
Quadro FX 2000 0x0308
Quadro FX 1000 0x0309
GeForce FX 5600 Ultra 0x0311
GeForce FX 5600 0x0312
GeForce FX 5600XT 0x0314
GeForce FX Go5600 0x031A
GeForce FX Go5650 0x031B
Quadro FX Go700 0x031C
GeForce FX 5200 0x0320
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 0x0321
GeForce FX 5200 0x0322
GeForce FX 5200LE 0x0323
GeForce FX Go5200 0x0324
GeForce FX Go5250 0x0325
GeForce FX 5500 0x0326
GeForce FX 5100 0x0327
GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M 0x0328
Quadro NVS 280 PCI 0x032A
Quadro FX 500/600 PCI 0x032B
GeForce FX Go53xx 0x032C
GeForce FX Go5100 0x032D
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra 0x0330
GeForce FX 5900 0x0331
GeForce FX 5900XT 0x0332
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 0x0333
GeForce FX 5900ZT 0x0334
Quadro FX 3000 0x0338
Quadro FX 700 0x033F
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 0x0341
GeForce FX 5700 0x0342
GeForce FX 5700LE 0x0343
GeForce FX 5700VE 0x0344
GeForce FX Go5700 0x0347
GeForce FX Go5700 0x0348
Quadro FX Go1000 0x034C
Quadro FX 1100 0x034E


Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver.
These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA
GPU driver releases.


NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID
------------------------------- -------------------------------
RIVA TNT 0x0020
RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro 0x0028
RIVA TNT2 Ultra 0x0029
Vanta/Vanta LT 0x002C
RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro 0x002D
Aladdin TNT2 0x00A0
GeForce 256 0x0100
GeForce DDR 0x0101
Quadro 0x0103
GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro 0x0150
GeForce2 Ti 0x0151
GeForce2 Ultra 0x0152
Quadro2 Pro 0x0153

If your is one of the cards at the bottom, you will need an even older driver(or the nvidia legacy driver which I have no clue where to get...). It seems to be the same for 7664.

From what I can read here: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Li...174/README.txt you will need driver 7174. It's worth a shot.

[Anonymous1c4]

Alright, i'll try 7174 first and if it still sucks then i'll try 7667.

[Nihilanth]

With the exception of UT:2k4 (GOTY is better ) did anybody bother to think that the reason your getting terrible framerates is because your using cedega to run counter-strike? (well, steam) don't expect exeptional performance under cedega, and don't ***** about the driver being bad when the game doesnt play well, keep in mind your not running it natively under linux.