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    How to transfer the BOOT CD Gentoo OS to my machine


    Is there a simple way of installing the GENTOO boot CD Linux onto my machine so that I can use that as a starting point ?

    I have tried the various options to install and either the eth0 does not work or the Window manager fails to work.

    But the Boot CD works perfectly...

    So my thought is transfer teh working CB Gentoo Linux OS to my machine AS-IS and use that as teh starting point -

    For example I wnat to go to the resolution Windows gets (1900x1200) and twin Heads (displays) Then I want to install VMWare...

    Then I'll be a happy chap...

    All help appreciated.

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    My advice would be to follow the handbook and install it through the command line, because honestly, if you can't install it following the handbook, you won't be able to maintain your install.

    Gentoo is a "do-it-yourself" distro and the base install does not have a window manager or anything except the basics. You will boot into a command line when you are done.

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    The main purpose of Gentoo is building the system from scratch (almost).
    Gentoo user's should enjoy the challenge of building a working system/components.

    I revel in the challenges of getting my Gentoo system working exactly how I want it.

    If you want a simple installation Linux then you should look at binary Linux distro's.



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    Cool

    Thanks guys - I have tried the command line install - and following the handbook - but it failed to get the network working (no eth0 but just lo) but Xwin fine. So i tried again a few times to no avail still failed to identify the hardware.

    I tried the GUI install version and that got the network i/f working but not the Xwin.

    The current Boot CD gets everything working fine from the CD including Xfce4 / GDM and networking. I have a 3 year old D900T Clevo twin 3.8Ghz CPU with 3Gb Ram and 600Gbyte Disk and its a shame just to run Win Xp on the poor machine - How can I let it suffer before its put out to pasture?

    I thought the simplest solution would be to get the BOOT CD Linux image cloned to my hard drive and use that as a fall back as well as a base for building custum versions ie lean and mean versions of Linux when my experience level matures...

    At least I would have a versatile fail safe system I could also expect to work if I moved hardware platforms...

    I have instaled JFS as my main disk structure ext2 for boot.

    Main problem I have is dealing with the CD's SQaush? filing system.

    Alternatively:

    Where can I find out where all the key Xwin files are located on the Boot CD as if I know that I am sure I can simply copy all the relevent files to my earlier installation and so I'd have networking and Xwin.

    The main problem with the handbook is that it expects the user to know everything about what he is doing - the ability to clone the boot CD Linux Image to a target machine as a starting point for further customisation.

    Can I use redhat to do what I am saying and then switch to gentoo for any customisations?

    Many thanks again for your thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etcfpz View Post
    The main problem with the handbook is that it expects the user to know everything about what he is doing - the ability to clone the boot CD Linux Image to a target machine as a starting point for further customisation.
    You still aren't getting it. If you can't follow the handbook to do the install, you WILL run into trouble later on because of not being able to maintain it.

    What you need to do, is find out what module your network card uses and then load that module on your install. The livecd uses genkernel, so you could try that in your hard drive install.

    The underlying problem is that you aren't familiar enough with text configs and the file layout to fix the problems that Gentoo presents. If you can't get either installed and working on your own, then they will break later with a kernel update or some other update.

    Do this:
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    lspci
    lsmod
    You do both of those commands from the livecd. We can help you, but you have to be willing to learn the hard way to do things, because Gentoo will not be gentle with you in any way.

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    I presume then that the Gentoo Install CD is a stripped down shoe horned version of Linux with no upgradability.

    Here is the results:


    livecd ~ # lsmod
    Module Size Used by
    ipv6 239204 10
    bridge 51992 0
    llc 9524 1 bridge
    dock 12336 0
    fan 6756 0
    snd_hda_intel 278656 3
    snd_pcm 69252 1 snd_hda_intel
    snd_timer 23300 1 snd_pcm
    snd 51268 9 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer
    soundcore 9600 1 snd
    snd_page_alloc 12040 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
    yenta_socket 26924 1
    rsrc_nonstatic 14368 1 yenta_socket
    thermal 18108 0
    intel_agp 25428 0
    agpgart 33864 1 intel_agp
    i2c_i801 11088 0
    i2c_core 24384 1 i2c_i801
    r8169 31140 0
    parport_pc 39780 0
    parport 36392 1 parport_pc
    processor 39560 1 thermal
    video 20752 0
    backlight 7172 1 video
    output 5696 1 video
    battery 15652 0
    button 10416 0
    floppy 56452 0
    serio_raw 8708 0
    ac 8132 0
    pcspkr 5152 0
    joydev 13312 0
    tg3 106244 0
    e1000 114368 0
    raid10 24512 0
    raid456 124176 0
    async_memcpy 4736 1 raid456
    async_xor 5984 1 raid456
    xor 16456 2 raid456,async_xor
    async_tx 9836 3 raid456,async_memcpy,async_xor
    raid1 24608 0
    raid0 10112 0
    dm_bbr 14080 0
    dm_snapshot 19172 0
    dm_mirror 23744 0
    dm_mod 58116 3 dm_bbr,dm_snapshot,dm_mirror
    sbp2 23912 0
    ohci1394 32592 0
    ieee1394 87384 2 sbp2,ohci1394
    sl811_hcd 14048 0
    usbhid 30272 0
    ohci_hcd 26724 0
    ssb 33092 1 ohci_hcd
    uhci_hcd 25520 0
    usb_storage 79904 0
    ehci_hcd 34572 0
    usbcore 136300 7 sl811_hcd,usbhid,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,usb_storage,ehc i_hcd
    lpfc 215952 0
    qla2xxx 163524 0
    megaraid_sas 29712 0
    megaraid_mbox 32400 0
    megaraid_mm 12512 1 megaraid_mbox
    megaraid 38856 0
    aacraid 64036 0
    sx8 19660 0
    DAC960 68168 0
    cciss 36772 0
    cpqarray 22148 0
    3w_9xxx 33476 0
    3w_xxxx 27040 0
    mptsas 37448 0
    scsi_transport_sas 31584 1 mptsas
    mptfc 19940 0
    scsi_transport_fc 43556 3 lpfc,qla2xxx,mptfc
    mptspi 22056 0
    mptscsih 35360 3 mptsas,mptfc,mptspi
    mptbase 72836 4 mptsas,mptfc,mptspi,mptscsih
    atp870u 29632 0
    dc395x 33612 0
    qla1280 117868 0
    dmx3191d 14176 0
    sym53c8xx 72244 0
    qlogicfas408 8896 0
    aha152x 36720 0
    advansys 79200 0
    initio 19044 0
    BusLogic 67284 0
    arcmsr 24256 0
    aic7xxx 158872 0
    aic79xx 234808 0
    scsi_transport_spi 24928 6 mptspi,dmx3191d,sym53c8xx,aha152x,aic7xxx,aic79xx
    sg 35088 0
    pdc_adma 11652 0
    sata_inic162x 14180 0
    sata_mv 22984 0
    ahci 28324 0
    sata_qstor 11908 0
    sata_vsc 10660 0
    sata_uli 9508 0
    sata_sis 10660 0
    sata_sx4 14564 0
    sata_nv 27208 0
    sata_via 13476 0
    sata_svw 9732 0
    sata_sil24 18052 0
    sata_sil 13000 0
    sata_promise 15076 1
    scsi_wait_scan 3360 0
    pata_pcmcia 15616 0
    pcmcia 39308 2 ssb,pata_pcmcia
    b1 25024 0
    kernelcapi 40340 1 b1
    pcmcia_core 39348 4 yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic,pata_pcmcia,pcmcia
    firmware_class 11264 2 qla2xxx,pcmcia


    livecd ~ # lspci
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Memory Controller Hub (rev 0e)
    00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL PCI Express Root Port (rev 0e)
    00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
    00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 05)
    00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 05)
    00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 05)
    00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 05)
    00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 05)
    00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d5)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 05)
    00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 05)
    00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 05)
    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV41.8 [GeForce Go 6800] (rev a2)
    0a:00.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB1410 Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
    0a:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
    0a:02.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20378 (FastTrak 378/SATA 37 (rev 02)
    0a:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
    0a:05.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn] INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)
    livecd ~ #

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    Your wired internet card (eth0) will use the r8169 module. Make sure to either build this module into your kernel, or build it as a module and load it at boot time. Then, you will need to follow the handbook and add net.eth0 to your default runlevel, and if net.eth0 doesn't exist, then you will need to create it.

    Your wireless card will be a little more in depth, but it should be do-able.

    The Gentoo livecd is not a "stripped down shoe horned version of Linux with no upgradability" it just isn't suitable to be installed onto your hard drive. It is a specialized build built just for a livecd.

    I am not trying to be arrogant or anything, I just want you to understand how important it is to know the inner workings of your machine and operating system so that you can maintain and configure your install.

    If you would like to stick with gentoo, then may I suggest Sabayon to you. It is a distro that is based on Gentoo, but it is much more user friendly. If you wish to stay with Gentoo, then I will help you as much as I can, but you cannot expect Gentoo to do ANYTHING AT ALL for you.

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    Why do you want to use Gentoo ?

    This will give us an idea about what you want to achieve and if Gentoo is the best distribution for you (as it sounds like you are expecting something more like Fedora Core or Ubuntu).



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