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    Just installed on a Prescott P4 3.0ghz w/ HT


    Just installed new VLOS 1.2.1 (Gentoo-Based) Distro for those who don't know.

    VLOS (Vidalinux Desktop OS) is a powerfull, stable and easy-to-use Linux distribution. The desktop components are based on the best projects of the open source community including the GNOME desktop environment, Firefox browser, Evolution mail and calendar client, Gentoo Linux system and portage package manager. VLOS includes additional multimedia and productivity applications for the home user including media players, browser plugins for Flash, RealPlayer, PDF viewer, media, graphics design and administration tools.

    os[Linux 2.6.13-vidalinux2 i686] distro[Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.00GHz] mem[Physical : 1010MB, 70.5% free] disk[Total : 18.05GB, 79.00% Free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]] sound[ICH4 - Intel ICH5]

    But I'm just wondering about make.conf . VLOS is really great for gentoo newbies or even linux newbies like myself. It looks good out of the box, works like a charm, bootsplash, etc all going good. Didn't take more than an hour to install unlike Pure Gentoo .

    My cpu flags are .. fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr

    And I'm wondering what can I do to my make.conf to make it better more optimized for my hardware and such ? It also has Yukiyu a Portage Frontend and it has a make.conf wizard so I did some playing but dont wanna bork it and here it is.


    #File generated by Vidalinux make.conf wizard
    USE="nls dbm cdb glut jpeg python gg eds gdb gd mp3 cdr yp gs gdbm emboss oggvorbis mng xml samba hal gtk mikmod buttons fortran gmp oss mpe dvdr quicktime libwww gtk2 ssl n32 tcp fam dv X bitmap-fonts mod dio qt dbus ups zlib kde udev vorbis xmms rdesktop ode win32codecs mpeg exif glibc esd imagemagick mmx truetype-fonts theora gnome mono idn pdf tcpd tiff image svg apm xv xml2 gpm arts java usb zip opengl type1-fonts perl gif ipv6 encode ncurses mozilla bmp sdl berkdb png guile truetype gstreamer ogg gphoto2 dvd lcms nautilus motif stream expat imlib curl type1 bzip2 crypt gtkhtml html libg++ tcltk pam alsa spell mad readline slang xine pdflib audiofile howl"

    PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://172.16.0.1/files/vlos-i686/packages/All/"

    GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo"

    PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/overlays/vlos"

    HTTP_PROXY="http://172.16.0.1/files/vlos-i686/packages/All/"

    CXXFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"

    CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"

    CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"


    Thanks. by the way my system hardware is

    ASUS P4P800-E-Deluxe Mobo, Asus a9250Ge/256m (uses Radeon 9250 driver) but linux says uses radeon 9200 pro. Prescott Pentium4 3.0ghz w/ HT 1gb ddr400 dual-channel w/ heatsinks, Water-Cooled, 160gb, nec cdrw/dvdrw combo, Logitech mx3100

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    As a Jackass! tester and user, running GCC 3.4.5 on a P4 2.0(A) GHz machine OC'd to 2.2, here are my Flags:

    Code:
    CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
    CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -mtune=pentium4"
    #
    CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -pipe"
    CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -O3"
    CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fweb"
    CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -frename-registers"
    CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fforce-addr"
    CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -momit-leaf-frame-pointer"
    CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fomit-frame-pointer"
    CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -ftracer"
    #
    CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden"
    Work like a champ. Rockhopper, using GCC 4.x will be out soon, (if not already) and may have even more optimization in there.

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    Thanks. for the quick response. I'll try yours

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    I have a P4 3.0E Prescott, and I just use
    Code:
    CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe"
    Using -O3 with GCC 4.0 and above actually creates slower binaries and compiles slower (not to mention it breaks a lot). It was fine under GCC 3.4.5 and under.

    For processor specific USE flags, I use
    Code:
    mmx sse sse2 sse3
    I use GCC 4.0.2-r3. Most of the optimizations are now included when you use march={processor}, so no need for the extra CFlags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruven
    I have a P4 3.0E Prescott, and I just use
    Code:
    CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe"
    Using -O3 with GCC 4.0 and above actually creates slower binaries and compiles slower (not to mention it breaks a lot). It was fine under GCC 3.4.5 and under.

    For processor specific USE flags, I use
    Code:
    mmx sse sse2 sse3
    I use GCC 4.0.2-r3. Most of the optimizations are now included when you use march={processor}, so no need for the extra CFlags.
    thanks gruven... I currently have on this fresh install of vlos

    gcc (GCC) 4.0.1 (Gentoo 4.0.1, pie-8.7.

    , but how does your whole make.conf looks like ?


    btw this is vlos default before running the make.conf wizard ..

    # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically builtthis stage
    # Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
    CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686"
    CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
    CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
    USE="dvdr hal cdr dvd xine win32codecs dbus hal mono svg samba nautilus howl mmx hal dvdr gphoto2 dbus theora wifi
    rdesktop"
    PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://172.16.0.1/files/vlos-i686/packages/All/"
    PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/overlays/vlos"
    #ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"
    #GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo/"

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    This is my make.conf. I can post my emerge info if needed.
    Code:
    # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically 
    #built this stage
    # Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
    CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe"
    CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
    CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
    MAKEOPTS="-j5"
    ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"
    USE="X alsa qt avi cdr java cups divx4linux dvd dvdr dvdread encode ftp gif 
    mp3 mpeg opengl png truetype win32codecs xvid sse sse2 sse3 mmx 
    gstreamer nvidia jpeg2k jpeg usb hal fam dbus wmf sdl real mplayer xine ppds 
    nptl nptlonly offensive xscreensaver ssh firefox scanner mono gnome gtk gtk2
     cairo glitz mysql apache2 php vhosts flash gd pcre cgi session nfs dlloader 
    browserplugin musicbrainz nsplugin -ipv6 -samba -arts -eds -xmms -kde"
    FEATURES="ccache fixpackages"
    CCACHE_SIZE="2G"
    PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
    ALSA_CARDS="intel8x0"
    I_PROMISE_TO_SUPPLY_PATCHES_WITH_BUGS=1
    Just remember, that if you change your CFLAGS and/or march, then you WILL have to recompile your whole system and possibly world. I would do an
    Code:
    emerge -e system && emerge -e system && emerge -e world
    It is also recommended that you do that if you do a major upgrade to GCC, such as 3.3 to 3.4, or 3.4 to 4.0, or 4.0 to 4.1.

    And I just noticed we have the same motherboard.

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    WOrd.. finally its about time i find people using what i have lol.
    anyhow..
    This vlos stuff is acting weird .. using this yukiyu (portage gui frontend) i guess made by vlos or something , its just like porthole basically.. i do adv emerge for ~x86 things .. and it suppose to add themt o p.keywords but if i do upgrade it downgrade what i just upgraded to latest ver

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobNyc
    WOrd.. finally its about time i find people using what i have lol.
    anyhow..
    This vlos stuff is acting weird .. using this yukiyu (portage gui frontend) i guess made by vlos or something , its just like porthole basically.. i do adv emerge for ~x86 things .. and it suppose to add themt o p.keywords but if i do upgrade it downgrade what i just upgraded to latest ver
    I have never really used a GUI for portage, so I can't help you with that. I just edit my files manually. I find it easier to maintain that way. I usually just suggest people do a stage 3 Gentoo install (which is what VLOS basically does, but takes away some configurability). If you want a totally "test" system, just add "~x86" to your make.conf, and that will stop the downgrading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruven
    I have never really used a GUI for portage, so I can't help you with that. I just edit my files manually. I find it easier to maintain that way. I usually just suggest people do a stage 3 Gentoo install (which is what VLOS basically does, but takes away some configurability). If you want a totally "test" system, just add "~x86" to your make.conf, and that will stop the downgrading.
    Thanks.. I will do so. By the way . I am trying to figure out how I can install gentoo (real naked one lol) but with fbsplash+gensplash on my card. So I gotta figure out how to for my card

    http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t...ighlight-.html

    os[Linux 2.6.13-vidalinux2 i686] distro[Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.00GHz] mem[Physical : 1010MB, 78.0% free] disk[Total : 35.54GB, 81.10% Free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]] sound[ICH4 - Intel ICH5]

    I'm about to do a Real Gentoo install with the help of some friends (cheater-conrad etc) . So I'm trying to find out any users using the same hardware as me especially my gfx card. how do you guys get it working with fbsplash. VLOS uses bootsplash I think, but I hear gentoo likes fbsplash and stuff not sure. So yea my friend wnats to know how can I setuup fbsplash+gensplash on my card.

    I have an ASUS P4P800-E-Deluxe Mobo Prescott P4 3.0ghz w/ HT Water-Cooled System by Thermaltake Custom Built (not by me though) . 160gb Western Digital . Logitech mx3100

    heres my lspci >


    Quote:
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
    00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller (rev 02)00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
    00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
    00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
    00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
    00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
    00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
    00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02)
    00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
    00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (rev 01)
    01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (Secondary) (rev 01)
    02:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
    02:04.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20378 (FastTrak 378/SATA 37 (rev 02)
    02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
    02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 02)



    Hope that helps.

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    My laptop has a Radeon 9000 Mobility, and I use the ATI drivers (fglrx). I use the splashutils package (which installs fbsplash) with the vesafb-tng driver in kernel.

    There is an entry in the gentoo wiki for this.
    http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash

    And I suggest you just do a plain install following the handbook, and you won't have a problem. The handbook is included on the install cd, and how to get to it is even included in the handbook. Although, you can always switch to a different vt (ctrl+alt+F key) and open the handbook on the internet in links.

    If you don't do the install by yourself (of course, help isn't discouraged) then you won't get very far in the world of gentoo. If things break, it is nice to know why they broke and how to fix them. That is the benefit of doing the install and understanding the commands you are typing.

    I wouldn't worry about fbsplash until you have a working installation of gentoo though.

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