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Hello all, I've been using Mepis on my laptop for several years now. I finally got my family let me put it on our main pc. I installed Mepis 7.0 ...
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    [SOLVED] USB mouse must be plugged in every time


    Hello all,
    I've been using Mepis on my laptop for several years now. I finally got my family let me put it on our main pc. I installed Mepis 7.0 32 bit and love it and the increased speed over xp pro. However, I have not been able to do just two things. One, is getting a USB mouse to work at boot, the other is getting the linux Brother mfc 420cn drivers to show up in printer selection. I'll just go with the mouse for now. I cannot get it to start at boot. However, if I unplug it and plug it back in, it immediately works perfectly. I've been looking all over the web, but cannot find a similar issue. Sometimes my USB external HDD does the same thing. This will never work for the family .... can anyone get me started here?
    I did try changing plug-and-play setting in bios setup, but nothing changes. If you have any ideas, please let me know.
    Thank You,
    jaybee

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    Hello.
    Try plugging the mouse to a hub that is plugged to your laptop.

    Sometimes using a USB-hub can solve the issue.

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    USB mouse must be plugged in every time

    Hey Grandebasta, thanks for the advice.
    The laptop works fine, it's the main pc (desktop) that has the issue. It is plugged into a pci add-on 4 port hub and works fine in xp, but I'll get one that plugs into the wall and see what happens. Hopefully I can post back tonight with the results. Hey, maybe that pci card is what isn't working with Mepis????
    Thanks again for the idea.
    jaybee

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    Hi there, and thanks, for your prompt response.

    I meant: Plug the USB-hub to your PC. Thank you, and good luck.

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    Bummer dude. That didn't work.
    What really sucks is I booted to xp pro and voila, a usb mouse, external hdd, and a fast printer.........ughhhhhh
    Mepis does seem to be giving me a general usb issue. I'll keep hunting.
    Thanks again Grandebasta

    jaybee

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    lsusb command results

    Does this help anyone?? USB mouse still not working at boot on Mepis.

    lsusb from boot

    root@Music:~# lsusb
    Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1058:0900 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000

    lsusb after replugging mouse

    root@Music:~# lsusb
    Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. M-UV69a Optical Wheel Mouse
    Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1058:0900 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000

    lsusb after replugging printer

    root@Music:~# lsusb
    Bus 004 Device 002: ID 04f9:0162 Brother Industries, Ltd
    Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. M-UV69a Optical Wheel Mouse
    Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1058:0900 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    root@Music:~#

    It doesn't help me

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    Hello Jay
    You could go to /dev/bus/usb/003
    , Properties, Permissions, Access Permissions, as well as Ownership (User, Group), and see if you can change those settings in a favorable way.

    In /var/log/syslog, you might be able to track down/figure out, what is happening.

    Your mouse is a low speed device, which works well, with downspeed and upspeed.
    (High speed devices can get a problem, in one direcetion, where as a low speed device can bypass the issue, because of its low speed.)

    In General, low speed devices, such a keyboards and mice, cause less problems then high speed devices, such as a USB-scanner (example: Bug, and only one stream works).

    USB 1.0, and USB 2.0 should not create a conflict: Only use same system/cables to same ports. USB 1.0 cable with USB 1.0 port (older USB system), or USB 2.0 cable with USB 2.0 port (newer USB System).

    KinfoCenter (KMenu), "USB Devices", will show you a USB-tree, so that you can figure out, to which Host Controller your mouse is connected...
    By clicking on the mouse, you get some information about the mouse (Speed, ID numbers, USB version (for example USB version 1.10, which was the last version , before USB 2.0 was released.)

    To understand the USB system, you can google the Internet, and look at Wikipedia, etc.

    Sometimes, there is also a bug, that can hinder a stream from connecting, but as I mentioned, the issue would most likely not concern a low speed device.... - Well, only, if the bug would would be hindering your Host Controller to do his duty. In that case, I would suggest to plug the mouse int a other port of your motherboard, and see that he gets service form a other Host Controller.

    I think you could find some information about your mouse, and direct some questions to the specialists, at the website of the manufacturer Logitech. Usually, you can find all sorts of good information, as compatibility, specs, and a lot more.

    If you search the Internet, you might even be able to find a Linux driver for your mouse, to enable all the features the mouse offers (get all buttons to work, same as in Windows).

    However, your mouse is detected.

    Keep me updated, please. I will look into this tread again.

    P.S.:
    I understand, that your printer works in Linux, but only if you unplug, and plug in again, but does not work from boot. Please confirm or correct me.

    The good thing about researching about USB, is that you will understand, and get familiar with how it works, and will be more capable to fix issues with all sorts of USB devices, such as printers and scanners, with all internal and external USB low, and highspeed devices.

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    USB mouse must be plugged in every time

    Wow, thanks for all the info (and homework).
    As you can see, the Dell (Logitech) mouse works fine once replugged after boot. The printer does show up when I do the same thing, however never prints. Evidently, I hadn't notice earlier that when I installed the linux drivers for the printer - the result was not 0. It had a comment that I needed to install "csh". So I did that, reinstalled the drivers, and now, once I replug the printer, it does show up as valid and ready. However, the print job stays in "processing" mode and never prints. Now that I'm using cups, it won't even do a test page. At the cups web site, it says the printer is not attached!!???
    So, both the printer and mouse need to be replugged for mepis to see them and so does the external hdd half the time. I have tried using the two usb ports on the back of the pc (mobo) as well as the four on the add-on pci card with the same results. I was thinking maybe I had to look at or add drivers for my mobo's usb, but can't really find anything in mepis to even look at. As for the printer, I must be getting close. I'll spend some time on it today. Since you've been so helpful, I will definitely keep you informed of my progress.
    Thanks again,
    jaybee

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    A good trick is to find the module (driver) that's loaded by each device. Open a terminal and run
    Code:
    /sbin/lspci >> module_list
    This will create a list of modules in a file called module_list. Plug in your device and then run the command again once it starts working. That will append a second list of modules to that file.

    You can visually compare the list and look for what's been added. When you find out you can add this module to /etc/modules to have it load automatically at boot. This should let things work for you

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    Hi Jaybee
    The problem seems to be the ports at /dev/ in your file system.
    They must be marked as "executable", and the proper user and group must be sett, as well as the permissions.

    Looks like access to those ports are denied.

    Once, access is allowed, the printer and the mouse should be able to work.

    After doing the changements, you will have to restart CUPS, and reboot your system. Do it as many times till the settings stay permanent.

    To see if it works, you will have to restart CUPS, before every print job.

    After setting the permissions, and making executable, you restart CUPS, and try to print. The printer should work, without unplugging it, and replugging it.

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