emu10k1 module not found even though it is compiled as module

[durty_nacho]

So I bought this card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102177

I know the card works becuse it works in windows. It uses the emu10k1 module, so I compiled my kernel with support for this module as a module. I did not compile into the kernel permanently. After I install the kernel and build the modules and reboot I run alsaconf. It finds the card but says it is a unknown sound device, even though it detects it as a creatve labs sound device. I also know that the modules compiled correctly becuse all of my other stuff that I compiled into the kernel works. This includes ntfs support, pci-express, ether express NIC support and all that jazz. I know that the card does indeed use the emu10k1 module, and I double checked my kernel to make sure I compiled it. I did. I tried to load it manually with modprobe by doing:

modprobe snd-emu10k1

and

modprobe emu10k1

and

modprobe snd_emu10k1

and none work. It says the module is not found. Any ideas>

[borromini]

You need the snd_ca0106 module, not the one you loaded. That's for a Soundblaster Audigy. You have a Soundblaster live.

[durty_nacho]

You need the snd_ca0106 module, not the one you loaded. That's for a Soundblaster Audigy. You have a Soundblaster live.

The site for the card says it uses the emu10k1 driver, and emu10k1 is the driver I used for my other sound blaster live card when I was running gentoo. Are you sure? I will try that and thank you for your fast response.

[borromini]

I am running a Soundblaster Live! 24 bit. It is indeed based on the same processor as the Soundblaster Audigy - the emu10k1 core. This is my list of loaded modules:

stijn[~]$ lsmod                                                                                                                                 
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_pcm_oss            41248  0 
snd_mixer_oss          14336  3 snd_pcm_oss
ipt_limit               1920  1 
iptable_mangle          2176  0 
ip_conntrack_ftp       71056  0 
ipt_state               1536  3 
iptable_nat            17116  0 
ip_conntrack           34584  3 ip_conntrack_ftp,ipt_state,iptable_nat
iptable_filter          2304  1 
ip_tables              17792  5 ipt_limit,iptable_mangle,ipt_state,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
uhci_hcd               26000  0 
analog                  9120  0 
ns558                   4612  0 
gameport               11016  3 analog,ns558
snd_opl3_lib            7808  0 
snd_hwdep               6560  1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_cs4231_lib         20224  0 
snd_mpu401              5064  0 
snd_mpu401_uart         5376  1 snd_mpu401
snd_rawmidi            17952  1 snd_mpu401_uart
nvidia_agp              5660  1 
snd_ca0106             22692  2 
snd_ac97_codec         66680  1 snd_ca0106
snd_pcm                70152  4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              18820  3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
snd                    42372  12 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_mpu401,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore               6880  3 snd
snd_page_alloc          7172  3 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_ca0106,snd_pcm
forcedeth              14592  0 
ehci_hcd               24456  0 
joydev                  7488  0 
usbmouse                3968  0 
usbhid                 28960  0 
ohci_hcd               16516  0 
usbcore                91772  6 uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd,usbmouse,usbhid,ohci_hcd
agpgart                26568  1 nvidia_agp
vfat                    9472  0 
fat                    38556  1 vfat
button                  5136  0 
evdev                   6784  0 
stijn[~]$

When I do $ alsamixer, the card is displayed as such (ca0106). I've looked at the product description on the page of Newegg you put in your topic start - the chip is SB0410. If you do some googling, you'll find that it requires the ca0106 driver in Linux.

[durty_nacho]

What version of alsa do you run. Cause I also get that damned snd_ctl no file or directory error

I have 1.0.8

[LondoJowo]

Here's the lsmod results for an Audigy 2 ZS

snd_emu10k1           123012  2 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_rawmidi            30880  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1
snd_seq_device         12940  6 snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
e100                   43392  0
snd_ac97_codec         84476  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm               108676  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              31364  3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
mii                     9088  1 e100
snd_page_alloc         14340  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem            9088  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep              13472  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd                    70788  19 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep
soundcore              13664  1 snd
ohci_hcd               25864  0
emu10k1_gp              7552  0
ehci_hcd               37896  0
gameport               20104  2 emu10k1_gp

[durty_nacho]

Then I shall try to load the card with the 0106 module. If that does not work I will post here my results. Thank you for your fast responses. You guys rock

[borromini]

What version of alsa do you run. Cause I also get that damned snd_ctl no file or directory error

I have 1.0.8

1.09a. Londojowo, he has a Live! 24 bit. That's the ca0106 driver - it surprised me too at first .

Durty Nacho, which distro do you use? That's important to know where the settings are stored for the modules to be loaded at boot. I use a Slackware variety, it uses /etc/rc.d/rc.modules. You can just edit that file as root, and uncomment the ca0106 line. That will load the driver every boot. Be sure to recomment the emu10k1 line if needed. You should find out where your distro puts that file.

[LondoJowo]

1.09a. Londojowo, he has a Live! 24 bit. That's the ca0106 driver - it surprised me too at first

I was just posting mine to help you show the difference

[durty_nacho]

Yeah if you look at the site i posted above it lists the emu10k1 as the chipset, but if the 0106 module is what it takes then I will try that. You say that the Live! 24bit card is "based" of the emu10k1 chipset? That makes sense, and I once again thank you all for your help.