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I am currently working on WinXP Pro SP2 (P4 2.8GHz, 512MB RAM, 80GB HDD). WinXP is installed in the D: drive (& not in the conventional C: drive though the ...
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    Question Dual Boot Mandriva & WinXP Pro


    I am currently working on WinXP Pro SP2 (P4 2.8GHz, 512MB RAM, 80GB HDD). WinXP is installed in the D: drive (& not in the conventional C: drive though the System partition is the C: drive i.e. C: is the System partition & D: is the Boot partition). I want my machine to give me the dual boot option of WinXP & Mandriva when I start my machine. I successfully downloaded Mandriva from a FTP site (693MB) & burnt it as a DISC IMAGE (according to Nero 6.0) & not as a DATA DISC in a blank CD so that I can install Mandriva in my hard drive using the CD.

    I changed the First Boot Device to CDROM in the BIOS & restarted my machine to install Mandriva but I don't know why Mandriva refuses to install in my hard drive. I could boot from the CD successfully after which I was told to select the language, country, keyboard, set the time etc. following which the Mandriva GUI (orange colored) came up but Mandriva didn't install itself in the hard drive though I was given the following kernel options while Mandriva was booting:

    noapic
    nolapic
    acpi=off
    acpi=ht
    pci=nomsi
    pci=nommconf
    reboot=b


    But since I don't have any idea what these kernel options would do, I didn't select any of the above options. Will selecting one of the above kernel options install Mandriva on the hard disk & give me dual boot option of WinXP & Mandriva when my machine starts?

    If yes, then which kernel option should I select? If no, then it means that if I want to use Mandriva, I have to always boot from the CD & after the booting completes, each & every time I have to select the language, country, keyboard, set the time etc. for the Mandriva GUI to come up This will be too monotonous!

    While working in Mandriva, I also changed the boot from LILO to GRUB in the Control Center but when I tried to set the boot option, I was told No bootloader could be found (or something of that sort).

    Please guide on how do I install Mandriva in my hard drive so that I can get the dual boot option. Note that prior to giving me the above options, Mandriva showed me the following:

    Boot options initrd=/boot/cdrom/initrd.gz fastboot splash=silent vga=788

    Please note that before Mandriva, I had tried installing Mandrake 8.2 first & then Debian 2.2 but due to some reasons, after the installations, I couldn't proceed after logging in with my login name & password (i.e. I couldn't see the GUIs). In the process, 2 Linux logical drives with EXT2 filesystem & a Linux Swap logical drive also got created. First when I installed Mandrake 8.2, during start-up, my machine gave the following 5 booting options:

    linux
    linux - nonfb
    failsafe
    windows
    floppy


    But since I couldn't proceed after logging into Mandrake, I installed Debian 2.2 but after installing Debian, my machine no longer gave me the above 5 booting options & by default, WinXP was loaded everytime. In fact, unlike Mandrake, Debian didn't give me the option to boot from my hard disk but I was told to create a rescue floppy disk. After this, to log into Debian, I had to use that floppy disk but, as already mentioned above, I couldn't proceed after logging into Debian as well.

    Can someone please help me out?

    Thanks,

    Ron

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    Hi Ron,

    Not really sure on how to advise you but I have a hunch that your troubles are related to the fact that you have XP on another partition besides hda1 or "C" as Windows folk call it... Do you have the XP install disk? I'd install XP to hda1, then Mandriva after that. If you go with grub boot loader, it needs to have Windows at hda1 in order for Windows to be able to boot.
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    Thanks Dan for your suggestion. I do have the XP install disk but honestly speaking, installing XP now in C: would mean a lot of work after installing XP like for e.g. downloading & installing the softwares I need (which are usually heavy-weight softwares like the .NET Framework, Visual Web Developer 2005, SQL Server 2005 etc.) plus downloading & installing all the XP updates. So installing XP anew in C: would be too time consuming which I would like to avoid.

    BTW, from the Mandriva GUI (which I get into using the CD), I set the boot options (in the Control Center) to Mandriiva & Windows & told Mandriva to use the existing Linux partitions. It does so but still I can't get the dual boot option of XP & Mandriva. In fact, when I start Mandriva (using the CD) again, I have to set the bootloader again since Mandriva again says No bootloader found. In other words, I have to assign partitions to Mandriva & repeat all those tasks.

    Can you please give me some other suggestions?

    Thanks once again,

    Regards,

    Ron

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    devils_casper is really good on this stuff but he's on vacation. The way I understand it though, is that grub cannot boot Windows if it is on any other partition other than the first (hda1) or "C." In order to boot Windows from another partition, you have to use a boot loader made for Windows, and configure it to boot Linux. I've had very limited success with any of the Windows boot loaders I've tried, but it's been a few years. Perhaps there are Windows boot loaders out now that do a better job.

    This might help...

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    Hey,
    Boot from any Live Cd and paste the output of /etc/grub.conf and fdisk -l command.
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    Shirish, could you please be a little more specific? I mean what is a Live CD, how do I create one & then use it to boot? Also how do I paste the output of /etc/grub.conf and fdisk -l command?

    Here's some more info when I used Live Install in Mandriva (which I booted using the CD). First I am asked to choose the mount points for the 2 Linux partitions hdc8 (705MB, ext2) & hdc10 (506MB, ext3). the following options are given in the drop-down list:

    /
    /boot
    /home
    /mnt/windows
    /opt
    /tmp
    /usr
    /usr/local
    /var
    /var/ftp
    /var/www


    If I select either / or /boot for both hdc8 & hdc10, then the following message gets generated:

    There is already a partition with mount point / (or /boot depending whether I have selected / or /boot for both hdc8 & hdc10)

    If I select /boot for hdc8 & / for hdc10, the next window gives me the option to format the partitions hdc8 & hdc10 though hdc10 is checked by default. If I select / for hdc8 & /boot for hdc10, then like the above, the next window gives me the option to format the partitions hdc8 & hdc10 but hdc8 is checked by default. The next window then starts formatting the partition/s which has/have been checked & after formatting, a message comes up saying Copying in progress....

    Now have I selected the correct options in the above steps? I feel this is where I am erring by selecting the wrong options which is why Mandriva isn't getting installed in the hard drive.

    When I go to Control Center-->Boot-->Set how the system boots, Mandriva always says No bootloader found. When I click the OK button, the next window first asks me to select the Bootloader to use with the following options in the drop-down list:

    GRUB with graphical menu (slected by default)
    GRUB with text menu
    LILO with text menu

    Next I am asked to select the Boot device which has the following options in the drop-down list:

    /dev/hdc (selected by default)
    /dev/hdc8
    /dev/hdc9
    /dev/hdc10
    /dev/fd0

    Keeping the default values selected, when I click the Next button, the next window gives me these 4 boot options:

    linux (/boot/vmlinuz) (default OS)
    linux - nonfb(/boot/vmlinuz)
    failsafe (/boot/vmlinuz)
    windows (/dev/hdc1)

    Keeping it as it is, when I click the Finished button, this process just terminates without generating any errors.

    Do I need to make changes in the above steps so that my machine gives me the dual boot option at start-up?

    Thanks once again,

    Regards,

    Ron

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    Hey,
    First of all Live CD means For i.e Knoppix . Knoppix, a Free and Open Source Live Linux CD. Knoppix is a GNU/Linux distribution that boots and runs completely from cd. It includes recent linux software and desktop environments.

    Anyways while installing Mandriva just select noapic option. This will install Mandriva on the hard disk & give you dual boot option of WinXP & Mandriva without any problems.
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