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  1. #11
    Linux Engineer
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    Dec 2002
    New Zealand

    in kde click the button on the taskbar labelled konsole (little screen wiht a seashell on it) or go to k menu, terminals, and pick one of the like 5 that are probably there.

    in gnome go to applications, system, terminal. or click foot then same menus as in kde.

  2. #12
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    Feb 2003
    Ontario, Canada
    also, in kde, you open almost any app by pressing ALT-F2 and then typing in the name of what you would like to open.

    for terminal, use konsole.

  3. #13
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    Apr 2003
    Press the kde/gnome button on the bottom left, click run command and type in xterm to open a terminal....


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  5. #14
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    Jan 2003
    Cardiff, Wales


    terminal - in gnome right click on the desktop and choose new / terminal.

    Dolda. I understand what you are saying about MS and secret sys calls etc. but that kind of integration is excellent. although it provides an unfair advantage to MS, if they opened the functionality to others then it would be a huge advantage.

    I was just saying that integration is good in windows, the OS is designed around the end user. And yes that does mean that some windows code is there purely to increase the speed of office or IE but that is a good thing.

    perhaps the linux kernel needs to include code to help speed up the various GUI toolkits. So that you could build your kernel with an extra flag like -gnome and in one hit you could optimize your system to run gnome and all its stuff.
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  6. #15
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    Oct 2001
    Täby, Sweden
    It's not such a thing as integration. These are calls that are specifically designed to fit Microsoft's application. I don't know the details, but it is like having a syscall for drawing the drop shadow under the document in Word's layout view. And that's certainly not a good thing, since it increases the possibility of a bug by orders of magnitude by abandoning good procedures.
    You don't want the kernel to be larger than necessary, not only since more code means more bugs, but also since more kernel code means more unswappable memory.
    I understand what you're saying, but Microsoft's "integration" isn't good in the way that is assumes that you are supposed to use the system in a very specific way, which you don't always do, and it's not customizable what they way is.

    On the other hand, curstomizable preloading could probably prove to be a very good idea. Internet Explorer loads very fast since its own code is minimal. The bulk of the code is in Microsoft's HTML View component, which is loaded by the Windows shell as well even before IE is started.
    A similar thing could probably be implemented in a better way in Linux. Of course, it still isn't smooth in any way, but it should very well be possible to make the kernel detect when the IDE request queue is empty, and when it does, it fills it up a bit with requests to load and cache files that are predefined through some user space tool, such as some GNOME components. That way, while the IDE subsystem stands idle, it could automatically load some things like the GTK toolkit or the GNOME session manager, warming up the buffer caches a bit before you log in.
    Maybe someone should be looking into that.

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