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  1. #1

    Question Upgrade to Mandriva 2009

    I loaded mandriva 2008 in to a computer from a disc. Computer is on a windows network which worked well, I decided to keep up to date I should upgrade to 2009 which I done via download, again all seems well except I can not access the internet, have tried a few things without success the only error message I get is Connection closed. Can anybody advise ? Before I reinstall 2008

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    Hello, this info presumes you are on a wired LAN, home/or work.

    I found that there is some info regarding a problem with a specific NIC and Mandriva 2009 (pre-release).

    Take a read:
    Mandriva Forum >> URGENT: major bug in all Mandriva Linux 2009 pre-releases

    My approach would be to determine which version of Mandriva 2009 you have ? : (pre-release, or RC2).

    2009.0 RC 2 - Mandriva Community Wiki

    An update to version RC2 may just solve the problem.

    If you already have RC2, then some testing can confirm if the NIC/LAN is functional.

    Idea 1: review your LAN configuration to confirm that you have the correct network settings. Check your LAN host IP address, DNS, confirm your NIC is on the same address range as the LAN.

    Idea 2: Prove the NIC/LAN works by a secondary OS. Or just try using the network tools defined below from within Mandriva. Evaluate your results.

    1. Obtain/use a bootable rescue disk, or one of the nice nix rescue disks. I use Frenzy, a bootable BSD version - with lots of cool tools, which has proven a handy friend in hard times. Using Frenzy I boot into X and have tons of tools available. Frenzy runs completely in memory using virtual partitions/does not need the hard-drive to run.

    2. Boot up the rescue disk OS.

    3. Configure your network card (NIC).

    4. Test: can you connect to network resources.
    - Try ping to a known LAN network address.

    5. If you have a successful LAN connection, try to access the internet.

    6. A. If you can get an internet connection then reboot into Mandriva and review your LAN settings.
    B. If you can not get an internet connection or ping the network, and the LAN settings are correctly configured, then there may be a hardware failure/bad cable connection? You will have to investigate further.

    Some tools:

    ifconfig -a {to see all network interfaces that are up or down, example below }
    eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:62:3F:04:3D:0F
              inet addr:  Bcast:  Mask:
              inet6 addr: fe80::262:3fff:fe04:3d0f/64 Scope:Link
              UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
              RX packets:7008 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:6239 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
              RX bytes:5019725 (4.7 MiB)  TX bytes:944303 (922.1 KiB)
              Interrupt:3 Base address:0xac00
    lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
              inet addr:  Mask:
              inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
              UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
              RX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
              RX bytes:5520 (5.3 KiB)  TX bytes:5520 (5.3 KiB)
    sit0      Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
              NOARP  MTU:1480  Metric:1
              RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
              RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

    route { to view the current routes, example of route below }
    Kernel IP routing table
    Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface     *        U     0      0        0 eth0
    default         UG    0      0        0 eth0
    More usefuls, look these up in man for more info:

    netstat -i {show the active interfaces, should be eth0 and lo}
    netstat -s | less {lots of useful info showing network traffic stats}
    ifconfig {with no options will show all active interfaces}
    ping -c 1 {test a network address allowed a ping response}
    nmap -sP {very useful program, show all active ip addresses for a network, /24 is netmask, commonly used }
    nmap -p {show open ports tcp/udp on the network}

    Some good reads:
    Quick HOWTO : Ch04 : Simple Network Troubleshooting - Linux Home Networking
    Setting up a Local Area Network


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    Thanks iPenguin you have given me something to work on, I was relucktant to start again as it takes about six hours to download the 2009 upgrade. Will keep you informed probably next week as I am away for the weekend.

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    Is it possible to actually upgrade (i dont mean delete current and installation and install the new one or install over the current installation) to mandriva 2009?

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    Reply to: xombie207

    There is a recommendation that involves deleting some packages, then using urpmi to upgrade.

    Take a read of post #2 by AdamWill:
    Mandriva Linux 2009 released - Ubuntu Forums

    I personally prefer the clean install method because there can never be a chance of missing something - which results in conflicts or misconfigurations. The downside of this method is that you need to backup any files that you want to keep (including any config files). But, that could be an upside also. : )

    One can always try the package delete/urpmi upgrade method suggested, and if afterwards there are issues that are not easily resolved, then a clean install method can be implemented after backup of wanted files.

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    Well... i guess i'll just clean install 2009 although i have several programs i dont want to have to download again...but i also have some kernel issues on my current installation which makes me want to do a clean install anyway

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    Hi iPenguin, Done all the checks and everything ok, except internet connection I think I need to look at two area`s IPv4 and firewall.Computer just hung when I tried to ping an internet address.
    Considering reinstall 2008 spring would I be able to keep it up to date without upgrade ?. As I am new to the terminal and find it a bit of a minefield.

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    Reply to: Scotia, Re: Mandriva Internet Connection Failure


    Can not really see the cause of the problem.
    I recommend reading articles where others have had similar probs.
    Try some of the things that they tried that worked.

    Some things you can do:

    1. su to root, using careful typing while at root
    su root-password

    2. Make a working directory where you can keep information.
    mkdir /home/work; chmod 700 /home/work; cd /home/work

    3. Confirm that eth0 is xmit/rcv:
    Q: for eth0, do you see TX and RX (transmit/receive) numbers greater than zero?
    date > netdev; ifconfig -a >> netdev; less netdev

    4. You can check your modules blacklist to see if your NIC is blacklisted.

    A. Check if the ethernet controller is blacklisted.
    date > modblacklist; modprobe -c |grep blacklist >> modblacklist; less modblacklist

    If it the module is blacklisted, then it can be commented out in file (/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist). Make a backup of the file first.
    You can install the module. See the manual.

    5. Get info regarding your nic:
    date > pcidev; lspci -v >> pcidev; less pcidev
    or: date > pcidev; lspcidrake -v >> pcidev; less pcidev

    Read pertinent amongst some of the following:

    A Linux manual:
    Linux Online - Documentation

    Loadable Modules:
    Linux Online - Linux Loadable Kernel Module HOWTO

    A Mandrake manual I was able to find:
    Starter Guide

    Some Mandriva 2009 errata, internet connection (read this):
    2009.0 Errata - Mandriva Community Wiki
    8.4 Slow or no internet response (particularly web browsing)

    Check the msg from vinko, Jan 17 2007, 11:22 PM, a DNS config resolution: > Upgrade problems: OK, but no internet

    Another possibility, a configuration choice:
    Mandriva Forum >> downloaded free. installed it. and now I don't have internet
    Posted by: AndrewHethorn, PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:01 am Post subject:
    snip: Search there for timestamp=0

    Info about ipv6:
    Get IPv6 Now with Freenet6

    The Mandriva 2009 eth bug:
    The Official Mandriva Blog Blog Archive Notification: major bug in all Mandriva Linux 2009 pre-releases

    Some reads for inet configuration:
    Setting Up Services

    Just a recommendation, get Frenzy for testing - you will like it.
    I use the extended version.
    You can download/use it free here:
    Project Frenzy - FreeBSD-based LiveCD

    And one last thought: if Mandriva 2009 inet is not functional, try Debian/Etch - see if it fits.
    I was able to download a single cdrom iso of Debian/Etch, burn it to cdrom, booted it, installed with ease.
    You can easily install more packages/programs over the internet using Synaptic.
    I had the internet working very quickly after configuring the nic/LAN.
    This is the best distro I have experienced. (I have used Mandrake 8.2 and 10.)

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    Hi iPenguin Finally getting somewhere I have a list of problems to look at. I think the main one will be to start TCP/IP ? unable to check a full system log. Have taken your advise and ordered a copy of Frenzy was unable to download page was not available, also intend having a look at Debian/Etch but have become engrossed in this and dont have a spare machine at the moment. Thank you for taking the trouble to help. Scotia

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    Forget about the upgrade. It's just a dream in Linux-land. There are no stable upgrades at all. Believe me. For example I was trying to upgrade my system just to have Gimp 2.6 working on it from 2009 repos, and it caused such a chaos, that I had to reinstall the system (which worked seamlessly for 6 months). The everchanging libraries, the constant need to install new versions. This is the Achilles-point of Linux. To change one thing is likely to change all the system. You'll succeed only if you install Mandriva 2009 anew.
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