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    Mandriva 2006 Freeze Issue


    I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how to troubleshoot a freeze issue. I almost feel as if I am running on a M$ OS with BSOD's. It freezes mostly while using programs that are sending/receiving constant amounts of heavy data streams such as IglooFTP-Pro or BitTorrent. I have had it freeze during the KDM login screen and also while browsing with Firefox. I will provide any information I can provide if you let me know where to start. Brad

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    The only sensible suggestion I have at this stage is, wait until things get choppy, open a terminal and type:

    top

    Post the output here so we can see what processes are running. I understand what you said about heavy data streams, but it would be good to take a look at which apps are using up your systems' resources.

    Do things slow down a lot at any other time? How often does this happen? Has it always happened or has this just started? What kind of hardware are you using: please post your full hardware specs, especially your video card and motherboard chipset details.
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    fingal, here is my top.

    top - 10:19:17 up 9 min, 3 users, load average: 0.36, 0.85, 0.54
    Tasks: 93 total, 1 running, 89 sleeping, 0 stopped, 3 zombie
    Cpu(s): 3.6% us, 0.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 95.4% id, 0.0% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si
    Mem: 515424k total, 402660k used, 112764k free, 67320k buffers
    Swap: 3156732k total, 0k used, 3156732k free, 182608k cached

    PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
    3833 root 15 0 294m 17m 4936 S 1.7 3.5 0:22.26 X
    5589 brad 15 0 22584 16m 7948 S 1.0 3.3 0:02.51 net_monitor
    4683 brad 15 0 25064 13m 11m S 0.7 2.8 0:01.64 yakuake
    6191 root 16 0 2000 1040 804 R 0.3 0.2 0:00.05 top
    1 root 16 0 1564 540 472 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.91 init
    2 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
    3 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 events/0
    4 root 14 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 khelper
    5 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread
    7 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid
    73 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.10 kblockd/0

    I am starting a log of the freezes I get. The first one I got this morning was during the KDE startup just after the KDM login, during "Setting up interprocess communication" The second was 10 minutes later during the wrting of this reply. I was actually using my terminal program called Yakuake. All of these freezes started happening after I had to perform a reformat and reinstall over my /usr and / directories of Mandriva 2006. I am having problems getting my wifi card to connect to my network. The details of this can be found in this thread,
    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=401932
    The freezes seem to be quite random but I am always guarenteed one if I am using FTP or transferring files over my home network, usually within 5 minutes.

    Hardware specs:
    Asus A7M266 motherboard w/ AMD761 North Bridge, VIA 686B South Bridge
    AMD Athlon 1400
    512MB DDR 2100
    GeForce FX 5500
    Linksys WMP54G PCI
    Creative !Live 5.1 PCI
    80GB IBM Deskstar 7200RPM

    uname -r results:
    2.6.12-14mdk

    I am going to try running on the 2.6.12-12 kernel to see if maybe its a kernel version issue to narrow it down. I'll let you know what I find. Thanks for the reply fingal,

    Brad

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    I worked with the 2.6.12-12 kernel this morning and found it is not different. It froze during file tranfers over my network 3 times. Frustrated.

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    Brad

    I had numerous freezing problems with my box too, thought mine could be related to acpi, so in the lilo.conf, under the append staement, set acpi=no apm=off apm=no.

    ie: append="acpi=no apm=no apm=off resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent PROFILE=default"

    Also turned off unneccessary power features in the bios, and have also gone to the 2.6.12-15mdk-i686 kernel ... and it seems to be running smoother.

    Your problem sounds like it's network related - network card perhaps. Wish I could be off more help, but just wanted to post this for you to try as a last means. Did you see anything in your log files - /var/log

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    Yeah, problems like that leave me sitting here with my mouth hanging open thinking, 'I'm not sure' ... but just to cover all the options, are you behind a firewall and do you have good security? A very slow system could (at least in theory) be a security problem as well. A very outside chance I know.

    And as the fella above said, checking your logs is a good move ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by just1n
    Brad

    I had numerous freezing problems with my box too, thought mine could be related to acpi, so in the lilo.conf, under the append staement, set acpi=no apm=off apm=no.

    ie: append="acpi=no apm=no apm=off resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent PROFILE=default"
    Appending "noapic nolapic" can also help.
    I'd also test the ram / hard-disks and make
    sure "PNP OS" says "no" in the bios.

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    I was interested to see this thread as I've just upgraded from Mandriva 2005 to 2006 and am having exactly the same problems, it will just lock up intermittently but I never had any probs on 2005. I'm running it on a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop, and I've also installed Suse 10 in another partition and have had similar hangs. At the moment I've gone back to Mandriva 2005 and the hangs have stopped. I'm going to try and investigate the hangs and if I find anything I'll post it back here, similarly I'd be gratefull to hear from anyone else who gets to the bottom of this.

    Martyn.

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    Same problem here. I THINK this only started after installing all updates. The lockups are random. Also getting a lot of KDE applications and daemons crashing so I (first backed up then ) removed ~/.kde/ and ~/.kderc and started again but that didn't solve the problem.

    I notice also (perhaps just this kernel 2.6.12-15mdk) that the "Sys Rq" key doesn't work when a system lockup occurs so I have to hard-reset on the box.

    Will check my logs to see if I can find anything...

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    remove kat. some/most/all of the problems with crashing will be eliminated.

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