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Originally Posted by Sunnyside 1: The customer is always right I am happy to see we are in agreement....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnyside View Post
    1: The customer is always right
    I am happy to see we are in agreement.
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    Such companies that can't get a simple web-page right and it ends up running only in IE are not doing a very smart move. IE 8 will supposedly be a lot more standard compliant than now (IE7 scores 11/100 in Acid3 test and can't even pass Acid2!!), so their pages will need to use some sort of IE7 compatibility mode to display in IE8!!!
    That is nice business strategy...: Make a crappy page that it only shows in one browser and then have to remake it so that it works well in its next version.

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    Back on topic...
    [because perhaps Sunnyside is a bit closer to the Darkside of retirement than he thinks breaking such a simple rule, even noobs usually know it - stay on topic or don't post at all.]

    The thread is not about ill conceived "Live with it" rants. It's about having to use a particular browser in order to transact your business (with a bit of good 'ol IE bashing thrown in; this is after all a Linux forum LOL).

    I have something to contribute from the other side, the website. We have just had a new site constructed for our company. Initially we did all our viewing in Firefox... but then opened the beta site to the rest of the company for comments, and discovered that the web designer had messed up memory allocations for IE browsers, which rendered the site incorrectly in IE. The problem was corrected, but it highlighted the larger problem of browser coders not following the standards, and also the problem with fancy pages that require java or flash or scripts: they do not always work well on all browsers without some effort from those making the site.

    Getting things to work on a website requires designing with specific browsers in mind - usually IE and Firefox. Some folks just take the easy route and stick to either one or the other, and then you end up with the "This site only works in <whatever browser>" limitation which sucks, and is not a client-friendly approach. Given that it usually costs money to change, clients and users making a fuss is the only way to get it changed. That said, most savy operators know that they must support both IE and Firefox to keep the majority of users happy... .

    [Still, this is where IE in CrossOver or vanilla wine becomes useful]
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    sarlacii:
    Apart from IE, did other browsers have any problems with that page? Opera or Chrome for example, or was it IE-only problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by L4Linux View Post
    sarlacii:
    Apart from IE, did other browsers have any problems with that page? Opera or Chrome for example, or was it IE-only problem?
    That was the first question I asked myself. Because if all of the other browsers were behaving, then it's IE's problem and I wouldn't be hacking my own code to work around IE's problems.

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    The way we work is to code to standards and then we use a separate IE only css file to break things to work in IE
    What do we want?
    Time machines!

    When do we want 'em?
    Doesn't really matter does it!?


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    At least there are encouraging signs in the horizon. IE's market share is falling steady and fast and IE 8 is supposed to be much more standards compliant than IE7 (which scores only 11/100 in Acid3).

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    IE 8 beta seems to render pages the same as Firefox 3 so at least that's a good thing
    What do we want?
    Time machines!

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    Doesn't really matter does it!?


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    Quote Originally Posted by elija View Post
    IE 8 beta seems to render pages the same as Firefox 3 so at least that's a good thing
    Can you post the results of Acid2 & Acid3 tests, as well as the javascript speed (sunspider) compared to FF 3 on the same PC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elija View Post
    The way we work is to code to standards and then we use a separate IE only css file to break things to work in IE
    DOH!!!! Alright, back to work Dijetlo, you can fix that #@#$@#$ browser problem now.....
    Thxs Elija

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