Can't get into etch anymore system hangs

[specialist125]

Ok, I can't get back into etch during loading it stops. It said something about waiting for root fiel system then it started to reconize my other drive then It hangs. I beleve the last thing I did was apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade. I dont know what is wrong I dont see anything fail before this point. What other info should I post to assist in getting this resolve or will I have to reinstall the whole thing

[antidrugue]

Are you sure the file /boot/grub/menu.lst is in good order and points to the right root partition?

[specialist125]

I think so it was working before all this happened.

[specialist125]

what should I look for

[antidrugue]

Make sure your line /boot/grub/menu.lst that reads like that :

kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-686 root=/dev/sda6 ro

links to the right / partition (root partition), as per

df -h

or

fdisk -l

[specialist125]

I Found the fix. When I updated all packages the udev package didnt update for some reason ????

[nleitao]

I Found the fix. When I updated all packages the udev package didnt update for some reason ????

hello

I'm having the same problem.. but i can't solve it
i'm not able to put the machine to work anymore
i tryed to install udev with chroot command at knoppix .. unsucessfully, it reports it can't configure it (because of not acessing /dev/null )
i tryed the debian CD in rescue mode.. even so. it doesn't allow to install stuff properly (reports that detects chroot mode and doesn't allow to proceed)
i thought about install a 2.4 kernel, because it won't use the udev stuff (i'm not sure.. but) .. anyway it wont let me to install it..

all i got now is dispair!!!!
the machine is a web server and i made an upgrade in order to solve dependencies because i got to install the latest mono package.... then something bad occured and the system invited me to run
dpkg-reconfigure -a
.. cool to do in just installed small systems,, tedious and dangerous in large systems

as u can figure. i can't let the server being down .. even if it is for development only... few, but important users

what steps had u made?

Thanks in advance

Nuno Leitao

[nleitao]

Hello!!

Is solved!! how??

here it goes... obviously there's something kinky about udev + debian.. or not .. is not safe to manage the udev while running the 2.6 kernel, so it wont let mess with it while the kernel is running ... good old policy of debian unfortunately this is a tricky problem... in order to keep stability, we loose compatibility (udev is not upgraded along the other packages) .. now what? debian has this problem because it is a very flexible system... other distros don't have this problems... but also don't have this level of manipulation.. play dirt.. get dirt ... in a beautiful way (debian way)

it works
if u got problems, u must boot with a 2.4.X kernel... or perhaps a previous to 2.6.12 kernel. udev is used by kernels >= 2.6.12.
after booting, with aptitude purge udev, purge 2.6.x kernel
reboot machine
once again with aptitude, install 2.6 kernel .. it will install udev to satisfy dependencies
reboot the machine with the brand new kernel

happy etch for all!!