KDE4 desktop and Widget issues

**flebber** · 02-07-2008

Currently I have a very strange KDE4 desktop. The Taskbar is nearly a 3rd of the way up the screen I cannot lower it, it appears to be firmly fixed where it is.

The widgets are very large and I cannot get them to be smaller plus it appears (now this may be a feature ?) that I have multiple mini desktop screens running all with zoom out in the top right corner.

How can you start with just one normal desktop and not have multiple smaller ones?

Because I am having so much trouble describing it in words I have attached a photo.

Oh and all this is on kubuntu gutsy.

**devils casper** · 02-07-2008

I am using KDE4 in Debian and havn't faced any problem till now.

We need a bit more info. Which distro are you using? Which Graphics Card do you have and which video driver are you using in xorg.conf file?

**flebber** · 02-07-2008

Well its kubuntu Gutsy on an pentium 2.8Ghz and Gigabyte motherboard. My xorg is below. Its just a little confusing because so of my errors could be features, it seems also that the system settings in KDE4 doean't yet have full functionality for managing taskbars.

Code:

# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Thu Oct  4 10:34:46 PDT 2007

# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"

    # Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
    #    InputDevice     "stylus"    "SendCoreEvents"
    #    InputDevice     "cursor"    "SendCoreEvents"
    #    InputDevice     "eraser"    "SendCoreEvents"
    Identifier     "Default Layout"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
    InputDevice    "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Generic Keyboard"
    Driver         "kbd"
    Option         "CoreKeyboard"
    Option         "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Configured Mouse"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "CorePointer"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "stylus"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
    Option         "Type" "stylus"
    Option         "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"# Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "eraser"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
    Option         "Type" "eraser"
    Option         "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"# Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "cursor"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
    Option         "Type" "cursor"
    Option         "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"# Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Generic Monitor"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 70.0
    VertRefresh     50.0 - 160.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "LG L194WT"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 83.0
    VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor1"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "TV-0"
    HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200]"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    Option         "AddARGBVisuals" "True"
    Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
    Option         "NoLogo" "True"
    BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Videocard0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 6200"
    BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
    Screen          0
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Videocard1"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 6200"
    BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
    Screen          1
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Default Screen"
    Device         "nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200]"
    Monitor        "Generic Monitor"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Videocard0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "metamodes" "CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen1"
    Device         "Videocard1"
    Monitor        "Monitor1"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "metamodes" "TV: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option         "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

**i92guboj** · 02-07-2008

Code:

Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"

This is what happens: both desktops are drawn into the same physical screen, surely your second monitor will be empty. I have this same problem. The xinerama support is still inexistent.

I see that you have xinerama disabled, but that might be it. Try to commend all the lines regarding to the second monitor, and that one I quoted as well.

**devils casper** · 02-07-2008

xorg.conf file is correct and it looks like problem is with KDE4 only. Have you installed KDE4 over KDE 3.x or is it a fresh KDE install?

**i92guboj** · 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by devils_casper

xorg.conf file is correct and it looks like problem is with KDE4 only. Have you installed KDE4 over KDE 3.x or is it a fresh KDE install?

Read again. I know that. But kde4 can't live with xinerama. You have to choose until the xinerama issues are fixed on kde4. I don't know if that's his problem, because he has not xinerama enabled. But it might be.

**devils casper** · 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by i92guboj

Read again. I know that.

I didn't quote your post in post #5. I can see that xinerama is disabled and thats why I wrote that contents of xorg.conf file are correct.

**flebber** · 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by i92guboj

Read again. I know that. But kde4 can't live with xinerama. You have to choose until the xinerama issues are fixed on kde4. I don't know if that's his problem, because he has not xinerama enabled. But it might be.

This could be causing the issue but it doesn't under KDE3. Those lines have to be there to support my Second screen ( TV ) . I am unsure whether KDE4 is set to cope with this extension yet.

This is an install alongside KDE3 on Kubuntu basically I log out and log into a KDE4 session. Followed these brief instructionsKubuntu - The KDE Desktop

**ynilesh** · 02-08-2008

Apart from this problem.....
Could you please tell me how to install KDE4 on fedora 8. I checked in google, but most of link says its not yet supported.... I still wann give a try.

**i92guboj** · 02-08-2008

Originally Posted by flebber

This could be causing the issue but it doesn't under KDE3. Those lines have to be there to support my Second screen ( TV ) . I am unsure whether KDE4 is set to cope with this extension yet.

This is an install alongside KDE3 on Kubuntu basically I log out and log into a KDE4 session. Followed these brief instructionsKubuntu - The KDE Desktop

Well, as I said above, you probably have to choose to run it or not. KDE 3.x is stable enough. If you want eyecandy or something, you probably should look into anything else. KDE 4.x is not ready for real life.

Originally Posted by ynilesh

Apart from this problem.....
Could you please tell me how to install KDE4 on fedora 8. I checked in google, but most of link says its not yet supported.... I still wann give a try.

I don't know much about fedora. If it (kde4) is not supported by your distro, then I suppose you are alone. You can still try to compile it yourself or download the rpms from the kde site. After all, rpm's they are... But, it could damage your kde-3.x installation. KDE 4 is -by no means- stable nor usable. It could completely break your 3.x installation... I don't really know how Fedora handles the things.

In any case, if you are going to install external kde4 rpm's into Fedora, be sure to first, make a backup of your ~/.kde directory, so your config files for 3.x are safe.

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