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hi, i'm a java developer and i've always developed in a windows environment. am out of work and buffing up my skills as i hunt for a job. i have ...
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- 07-01-2010 #1
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- Jul 2010
Q for pro developers
i have a question: when a shop says they do their java development in a linux environment are they likely using some kind of shell like ubuntu and installing developer tools and such through their desktop or are things still done old school w/ pkgadd?
sorry for being a nix noob.
- 07-01-2010 #2
shell <> ubuntu ??
install through desktop <> pkgadd ??
Furthermore I don't understand what this has to do with a development in a linux environment. And who is Q (I know two, but that would be either a "Kuh", which is the german pronounciation of Q or the Star Trek guy)? Please explain yourself better. It seems I am not the only one that didn't understand what your thread is up to.
- 07-04-2010 #3
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- Apr 2009
- I can be found either 40 miles west of Chicago, in Chicago, or in a galaxy far, far away.
A lot of Linux java shops use Eclipse or other IDE's for Java development. And as Klos asked, what does pkgadd have to do with anything? It is a Solaris package management tool, used to install application packages on systems. There are several for Linux, depending upon the distribution. Red Hat / CentOS / Fedora use yum and rpm. Ubuntu and other Debian-based distributions use apt-get or synaptic. Gentoo uses emerge. In any case, they have about zero to do with the development process itself.Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real time.
Just remember, Semper Gumbi - always be flexible!
- 07-04-2010 #4
You seem to have some terminology confusion.
Ubuntu is not a shell. In the *nix world, a shell refers to the commandline interface and its associated language. Nowadays, most people use Bash (the Bourne Again Shell), which is derived from sh (the Bourne Shell). Historically, there were also csh (the C Shell), ksh (Korn Shell), etc. Ubuntu, on the other hand, is a Linux distribution. This is a set of software that comes packaged together, with a particular philosophy of use and means of installing new software. Ubuntu is itself based on Debian, which means it uses the apt-get software to install new packages.
Almost everybody running Linux these days uses a distribution. This could be Ubuntu, Red Hat, Gentoo, Slackware, etc. When they install software, it may be through the package manager (apt-get, rpm, portage, etc.) or by compiling the code from source.
In any case, this has nothing to do with being a developer, unless you are learning how to package your own software. If you were to work for a company that uses Linux, they would likely set up your Linux environment for you and provide you with the software you need.
- 07-04-2010 #5
"I used to be with it, then they changed what it was.
Now what was it isn't it, and what is it is weird and scary to me.
It'll happen to you too."
The Fifth Continent
- 07-04-2010 #6
eclipse is just a java app. download it, unpack it, run it. the latest versions of it are still the best and repository maintainers just can't keep up with that time. if you want it nicely installed get familiar with the /opt/ directory and the update-alternatives tool.