Okay folks here is trhe nitty gritty:

**jvx** · 03-18-2005

What is it with people and terminal? I personally love the command line, I don't know why, I just do! As I am a former (and sometimes present) win user, I got use to terminal and to commands very fast. You don't need to know or use all the commands, remember the ones you use most, and use them. It makes things alot easier!
If you are tired of searching for dependencies (as you did in suse), then use gentoo, because it downloads all needed deps by itself. And FC is just like SuSE, sometimes you need to look for deps, thats the way it is!
If you are closed minded, and don't want to do some things for yourself, then the best OS for you is proabobly win!
EDIT:
And SuSE's packet management is rpm based too!

**ladymecha** · 03-18-2005

I am no where near ready for Gentoo, I am more then aware of how hard it is for a linux newbie...
I herad horror stories about how you have to use hours of command line just to shut it down.

**techieMoe** · 03-18-2005

Originally Posted by ladymecha

I am no where near ready for Gentoo, I am more then aware of how hard it is for a linux newbie...
I herad horror stories about how you have to use hours of command line just to shut it down.

Haha. *Those* horror stories aren't true, but it does take hours of command line to install it.

**Richard_The_Lionhearted** · 03-18-2005

Mwahaha

*chants*"Terminal, Terminal"

ladymecha........what video card do you have? If the system can't pick it up most likely you'd have to install the drivers. Since you have XP pre-installed you should try a live cd first if you're new to Linux. It's very easy. All you do is go into you're bios setup menu which appears during start up(usually you press the del button, but look and see which button the start up menu tells you to press to enter the setup screen). After you enter the setup screen go into "advanced setup" and under "1st boot device"(it shoulds say something like that" choose "cdrom". All you have to do now is enter a live cd everytime when the computer is turned on and it should start the cd. I can help you get one for $2.49 at a place I know if you're interested. Just remember that the cd NEVER touches the hard drive and won't mess up or bother Windows XP. This way you save space on the hdd and get to use linux. Its the best way to get new to linux. I'm actually on a "Live cd" right now while i'm typing this. Its pretty cool. Also to still use windows XP simply set in the bios menu under "2nd boot device" "ide0" and place no live cd in the cdrom drive at start up. Pm me if you need anymore help if you choose to do this.

**jens** · 03-18-2005

Originally Posted by ladymecha

Debian sonds good from what I read, but I am not willing to do command prompt

If you like Debian, but don't like the CLI, try Ubuntu.
The installer doesn't look as nice as the ones from SuSE, Redhat, Mandrake,... but you'll see it's just as easy.

Ubuntu Linux:
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/

and to make it very easy, here's a very complete and easy to use starters guide:
http://ubuntuguide.org/

**Richard_The_Lionhearted** · 03-19-2005

Originally Posted by jens

Originally Posted by ladymecha

Debian sonds good from what I read, but I am not willing to do command prompt

If you like Debian, but don't like the CLI, try Ubuntu.
The installer doesn't look as nice as the ones from SuSE, Redhat, Mandrake,... but you'll see it's just as easy.

Ubuntu Linux:
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/

and to make it very easy, here's a very complete and easy to use starters guide:
http://ubuntuguide.org/

She can't install Yoper and you want her to try Ubuntu?

**puntmuts** · 03-19-2005

There are all kinds of bootdisks, for cd as well. Have a look at www.bootdisk.com. You could burn some of those images to a cd and they will boot like a floppy. Works for me

**jens** · 03-19-2005

Originally Posted by Richard_The_Lionhearted

She can't install Yoper and you want her to try Ubuntu?

Ehm ... why not?
IMO Ubuntu is just 'Debian + GNOME' made easy...
All it's default options are the same as with Fedora or SuSE, the installer only 'looks' less pretty.
People who come from a DOS/Windows system usually don't know all the nice GNU/Linux goodies.
Ubuntu just picked all the standard apps ,making it easier for starters.

**muzhogg** · 03-21-2005

Originally Posted by ladymecha

I am no where near ready for Gentoo, I am more then aware of how hard it is for a linux newbie...
I herad horror stories about how you have to use hours of command line just to shut it down.

For what it's worth, I tried Linux a couple of years back and while I liked it, I simply couldn't afford the mucking around necessary to get it tweaked for my needs. Back to win 98 SE until very recently when I went to price new hardware and was told that I would also have to replace my OS and many of my applications.

Couple of days later I was browsing in a newsagents and found a mag with Fedora Core 3 cover disks. Decided to give it a try. VERY NICE!

Effortless install. Even picked up a network card that win98SE could never identify (not even with the manufacturers drivers, go figure). Printer worked first time. Even internet access through a router to ADSL (not automatically detected but remarkably simple to set up). The only hardware I can't use is my Acer (now BenQ) scanner (very sad).

I'm keeping win98SE to (1) scan documents and (2) play the games I have for that OS, but otherwise it's pretty much redundant. I can't see myself going back to an MS operating system any time soon and am looking forward to getting up to speed on the intricacies of Linux. Currently working on building a system from scratch just to learn a few things!

Day to day, I'm finding that the OpenOffice.org does all the things I need. So now I have a nice userfriendly graphical interface with some very useful tools. Has a nice convenient "shut down" button just like windows too, by the way.

Sort of put me back on the Linux bandwagon...

Point is, maybe Fedora Core 3 might be worth a shot?

All the best,
MH

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