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    HEEEEEELP!


    I ONLY HEARD ABOUT LINUX TODAY, THIS IS BECAUSE I HAVE HAD A WINDOWS DISASTER:

    i uninstalled some audio driver, the computer asked me to restart and i did...and...after the the windows starting up screen....NOTHING- BLANK SCREEN...oh dear.

    so i tried again...nothing. so pressed F10 for recovery and had my mesh CD inserted. i then get two error messages- one

    "error #5016 building the partition list on disk #0'

    then:

    'unable to find valid windows XP installation'


    and the windows revovery cd i had didnt work either. sooooooo....

    ...i heard that installing linux live OS might allow me to back up my important data before reinstalling windows, right?

    is this easy to do? how do i go about it? linux can be downloaded free right, but from where? and which version? (then burn it to cd on another computer...and it will run as a boot disk...???)

    any help or advice would be massively appreciated...

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    There are a few live cd's out there. The best ones IMO are Mepis and Knoppix.
    Or you can do a search of distrowatch for live cds. The search function is at the bottom of the main page.

    Check www.distrowatch.com to dl one of them.

    Can I assume you have more than one cd/dvd drive. One cdrom to use for the live distro and another for burning your data. Look for k3b in the Multimedia section to burn your data.

    Hope this helps.
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    If you just want to use linux to back up your Windows data, I would recommend downloading Knoppix http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirro...linux/knoppix/
    and burning the iso image. You can boot from the Knoppix CD and in a few moments you'll have a fully functional desktop. Since Knoppix is a live CD, it actually runs the OS from the CD and doesn't touch your hard drives (which is perfect for data recovery).

    There are other live CDs that would do the trick as well, but Knoppix is the "grandpappy" and usually the first that comes to mind.
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    if you just want to back up data from your jacked windows install you can take the drive out and put it in another system. that way you can copy the files directly.

    there are live-boot Linux CDs that run directly from the cd withoug having to install anything. If you use one of these, you will need some kind of volume to back up too. You could burn cds or dvds, or copy to an external HD.

    however to do this you will need to mount the windows drive once linux is booted from the cd.
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    The big problem here is his partition tables may be totally trashed, making recovery of anything on that drive virtually impossible until they're fixed. Loading Linux or slapping the drive into another machine won't amount to anything if the tables are shot.
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    wow, thanks for the replies peeps...

    but it sounds pretty tricky- i've no idea how to use the linux OS to do things like mount files or burn cds- is it a no risk option; worth a try? or could i do more harm than good?

    also to dld the knoppix- i'm given a list of files, is this the right one to click:

    File: KNOPPIX_V3.7-2004-12-08-EN.iso 715764 KB ?

    it has also been suggested to me to just reinstall windows xp w/o formatting the HDD- good idea? or a dodgy option?

    much appreciated

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    You could try the reinstall option; can't be much dodgier than having a dead system, which is what you have right now.

    As far as mounting drives, etc... In Knoppix, everything is graphically represented on the desktop, so it's easy to find. You just click on your Windows drive icon on the desktop to open a file browser. As for burning CDs, it will only work in Knoppix if you have 2 cd drives (since Knoppix is running on one); if you do, put in a blank CD, open K3b (which will have a familiar and friendly interface for you) an burn whatever you want.

    The file you asked about looks like it would work fine. Just make sure to burn it as a disk image and not to just put the .iso file on a disk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comical ali
    wow, thanks for the replies peeps...

    but it sounds pretty tricky- i've no idea how to use the linux OS to do things like mount files or burn cds- is it a no risk option; worth a try? or could i do more harm than good?

    also to dld the knoppix- i'm given a list of files, is this the right one to click:

    File: KNOPPIX_V3.7-2004-12-08-EN.iso 715764 KB ?

    it has also been suggested to me to just reinstall windows xp w/o formatting the HDD- good idea? or a dodgy option?

    much appreciated
    Hi Ali,

    Dodgy option

    If you are seriously concerned about the data on your hard drive, you need to step very, very carefully when it comes to doing a full reinstall of your OS without backing up beforehand.

    I think that going the live CD route is probably your best option. Particularly because if you do decide to move over to Linux you will be able to start getting a feel for it straight away. I would only sound the warning that Linux puts more power in the user's hands but demands alot more in return. I mention it because although I think using Linux as a tool to save your data is a good idea, I hope you realize that you will have to take it slowly and learn a little bit about Linux.

    Which is another way of saying there is NO easy way of getting your data back regardless of which route you take.

    Have you considered looking at a newsagents/news-stand for a Linux magazine with a Live CD cover disk? Might save you some of the download and burn difficulties.

    Best of luck,
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    Re: HEEEEEELP!

    Quote Originally Posted by comical ali
    ...i heard that installing linux live OS might allow me to back up my important data before reinstalling windows, right?

    is this easy to do? how do i go about it? linux can be downloaded free right, but from where? and which version? (then burn it to cd on another computer...and it will run as a boot disk...???)

    any help or advice would be massively appreciated...
    Hi again,

    Just a couple more things as I notice your really basic questions haven't been answered.

    A live CD version of linux will let you boot from your CD drive. You simply put the CD in the drive, adjust your BIOS settings (do you know how to do this?), and the system will start up with Linux.

    The "which version" question has been answered elsewhere and unless somebody else knows different my perception is that they are all pretty much similar in terms of functionality.

    You can either buy a Live CD as a cover disk on a magazine OR you download the disk image from the web and burn it to CD. You can then use it as a boot disk on your system.

    Try looking at the following;

    For a list of live CDs: http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
    For more info than you can poke a stick at on Linux live CD's:
    http://www.linuxhotbox.com/linux-live-cd.htm

    I know its alot of information to deal with, but that's life under Linux. I can only encourage you that the effort pays of enormously in the long run.

    Have fun!
    Muz

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    panic over,

    all those 'your-computer's-had-it-sounding' error msg's meant i neglected to try the obvious 1st- i started in safe mode (which worked! ) and tried a couple of system restores, one of which worked!!! AND i'm back in business! that gawd for that! what a fooking day!

    (looks like me linux days are over b4 they started eh? fricking newbie or what!)

    thanks for the replies, u guys are legends.

    me? EMBARASSED

    TAXI!

    lol

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