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    Xandros, maybe... Linspire, never... Linspire is just as bad, if not worse than Windows at hiding stuff, lying to the user, and taking your control away from your computer. Like last week, I turned on my monitor (I usually leave my system on all the time) in Windows and I was told that "Windows has automatically restarted your computer to apply the new automatic updates". And it didn't even ask me. I wasn't even told that it would restart without my permission. I can only imagine how bad Linspire must be at this. It's just little stuff like that that make you think that you think that you are losing control of your system... which is never a good feeling. Actually... Xandros is about the same on that level... so just go with CentOS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin1810
    Xandros, maybe... Linspire, never... Linspire is just as bad, if not worse than Windows at hiding stuff, lying to the user, and taking your control away from your computer. Like last week, I turned on my monitor (I usually leave my system on all the time) in Windows and I was told that "Windows has automatically restarted your computer to apply the new automatic updates". And it didn't even ask me. I wasn't even told that it would restart without my permission. I can only imagine how bad Linspire must be at this. It's just little stuff like that that make you think that you think that you are losing control of your system... which is never a good feeling. Actually... Xandros is about the same on that level... so just go with CentOS...
    You always keep bashing everything...
    Linspire isn't my favourite either, but do you have any proof for those very hard accusations:
    *Linspire is just as bad, if not worse than Windows at hiding stuff
    *lying to the user,
    *and taking your control away from your computer
    Unless you can show any proof this, this is really starting to become annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jens
    Quote Originally Posted by chopin1810
    Xandros, maybe... Linspire, never... Linspire is just as bad, if not worse than Windows at hiding stuff, lying to the user, and taking your control away from your computer. Like last week, I turned on my monitor (I usually leave my system on all the time) in Windows and I was told that "Windows has automatically restarted your computer to apply the new automatic updates". And it didn't even ask me. I wasn't even told that it would restart without my permission. I can only imagine how bad Linspire must be at this. It's just little stuff like that that make you think that you think that you are losing control of your system... which is never a good feeling. Actually... Xandros is about the same on that level... so just go with CentOS...
    You always keep bashing everything...
    Linspire isn't my favourite either, but do you have any proof for those very hard accusations:
    *Linspire is just as bad, if not worse than Windows at hiding stuff
    *lying to the user,
    *and taking your control away from your computer
    Unless you can show any proof this, this is really starting to become annoying.
    Linspire really deserves bashing whenever it's brought up.

    Back on topic, something designed to be "user-friendly" but not a clone of Windows, like Ubuntu, is probably best for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a thing
    Quote Originally Posted by jens
    Quote Originally Posted by chopin1810
    Xandros, maybe... Linspire, never... Linspire is just as bad, if not worse than Windows at hiding stuff, lying to the user, and taking your control away from your computer. Like last week, I turned on my monitor (I usually leave my system on all the time) in Windows and I was told that "Windows has automatically restarted your computer to apply the new automatic updates". And it didn't even ask me. I wasn't even told that it would restart without my permission. I can only imagine how bad Linspire must be at this. It's just little stuff like that that make you think that you think that you are losing control of your system... which is never a good feeling. Actually... Xandros is about the same on that level... so just go with CentOS...
    You always keep bashing everything...
    Linspire isn't my favourite either, but do you have any proof for those very hard accusations:
    *Linspire is just as bad, if not worse than Windows at hiding stuff
    *lying to the user,
    *and taking your control away from your computer
    Unless you can show any proof this, this is really starting to become annoying.
    Linspire really deserves bashing whenever it's brought up.
    No. Even if you think Linspire is *evil* for making money and being easy enough for your grandmother, that's still no reason to post lies about it on a public Linux forum (and make this place look like a kindergarten).

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    You always keep bashing everything...
    What... Linspire is bad. I don't want a new user to get even more bad computing habits by using it.
    Linspire isn't my favourite either, but do you have any proof for those very hard accusations:
    Umm... I have used it, it's not like I'm just making all this up. If it were a good distribution, I would like it. But it's not a good distribution. So I don't.
    *Linspire is just as bad, if not worse than Windows at hiding stuff
    The best example of this is that they have the default user as root. A new user will not know this and will be able to completely screw everything up without realising it. There is also no way to disable processes or to get any progamming done.
    *lying to the user,
    The very best example of this is the Click'NRun warehouse. It forces you to pay a five month subscription to get software that was written and designed for free distribution and use. A new user will not know that, for example, Firefox is free, and think that all of the GPL programs are really commercialised pieces of software. That is ridiculous.
    *and taking your control away from your computer
    It will overwrite your MBR without telling you. What if I already have a boot loader I like and have it all set up, and Linspire overwrites it, ruining everything?

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    Oh please...
    Non of that has anything to do with your wild accusations.
    Linspire is made for people who don't know anything about computers, people who don't even know about the existence of an MBR or a multi-user system(root) and simply prefere "ease of use" above security. They do exist and don't mind paying for such a system.
    I like the fact that Linux has a distro for all types of people.
    Now just start ignoring me, cause that's what I will do with you (I'm really getting tired of all your brainless everything sucks posts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jens
    I like the fact that Linux has a distro for all types of people.
    I agree; we're not all the same, and free choice means nothing without a diversity of options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jens
    Oh please...
    Non of that has anything to do with your wild accusations.
    Linspire is made for people who don't know anything about computers, people who don't even know about the existence of an MBR or a multi-user system(root) and simply prefere "ease of use" above security. They do exist and don't mind paying for such a system.
    That still does not justify what Xandros and Linspire do to them: they lie. These users don't deserve poor security and lies.

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    I highly reccomend SuSE 10. I'm 13 and installed SuSE 9.3 last summer as a project. However I now use it for almost everything computer related. SuSE has excellant hardware detection. It configured everything perfectly on my computer except my wirless card which wasn't all that dificult to fix. Also installing programs is an ease. You don't have to use the command line. Installation is fully graphical and it allows you to keep windows if you want and you have the option of going into both. By the was Windows and Linux are called an Operating System or an OS. You can also buy it with tech support (you won't be able to download this with a dial up connection you that may be your only choice).

    Also check out www.distrowatch.com for a long list of top rated distrobutions and such. Google has a "linux mode" if you want to search with it go to www.google.com/linux

    Good Luck
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    I second SuSE 10. It's great. I haven't had any problems with it. And it's been a dream setting everything up...even the web server, though I'm currently having a minor problem with it...oh well. It's not a big deal. But SuSE 10 is spectacular in my opinion.

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